FINAL DESTINATION: Ranking the Series & the Opening Set Pieces

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Hello everyone and welcome to

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the pod and the pendulum.
We are the podcast that covers

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all the horror franchises one
movie in one episode at a time.

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And sometimes we rank things
That's right, we are back with a

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another ranking episode coming
off our final destination

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Bloodlines episode.
We figure 6 is the magic number.

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Why don't we go ahead and rank
these films and also the opening

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set pieces from worst to 1st?
It's ironic that I am recording

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today on Father's Day because I
am not alone.

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I am joined by Mr. Daddy Disco
himself.

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He's the Co host of the Spectre
Cinema Club.

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He is the Co host of Tainted
Love, a podcast on dating,

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relationships and sex.
All things sexy and he's a great

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doggy daddy himself to little
Calcifer.

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Mr. Devon Taylor, how are we?
I'm doing fantastic, yes, not

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not not quite ready for for
human baby yet.

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I mean, don't get me wrong, I
love kids.

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I'm a I'm a big kids person
people.

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It's funny.
People always seem to be shocked

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by that.
I'm like, do I come off as a a

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not kids person?
People are like, oh really?

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I'm like, I love children.
No, you have that good energy.

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You definitely have that good
energy where I could see you

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being great with kids.
I am not great with young

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children.
Like I specifically don't work

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with little little kids because
I'm not that great with them.

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Like and babies to me look like
little weird potatoes.

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I didn't really how do I say
this?

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I started to really love being a
dad when my kid turned 3 and.

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Had that's what I always say.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like the

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1st 18 months I'm like, yo,
y'all look like little like

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freakazoids, like babies are so
weird.

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And then yeah, and then it's
like afterwards and it's like,

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OK, now, now, now that you got
some features and stuff.

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It's always funny, but my my dad
is kind of a similar way in that

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he also like you wouldn't assume
he's great with kids.

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Like he's like, you know, my
dad, he's covered in tattoos, he

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cusses all the time, like, you
know, just like all the things,

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but like he is so fucking good
with children and it's just like

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always like, like people knew my
dad like again, he's not that.

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He's not a sweetheart because he
is, but in his own way, but he's

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also very just very gruff and
straightforward.

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You know, some people are always
like, Oh my God, you're desk.

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But like he, he's also like
fantastic with kids.

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Find that sometimes the best mix
though, like a gruff exterior,

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but then you get the little
munchkins that kind of like melt

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your heart a little bit, you
know what I mean?

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Like you're gruff with the
adults, but you cut the kids a

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lot.
Yeah, that's literally like

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that.
Yeah, no, for sure.

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And then?
Yeah, I have found that, like,

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middle school kids are my sweet
spot right now that I have like,

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because like, they're just young
and dumb.

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And they remind me of being that
age and being incredibly stupid

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myself.
And, you know, like trying to

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give those kids a lot of grace
as they navigate those like late

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adolescence, early teen years,
which I described like junior

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high is the worst, like 3 years
of a kid's life.

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That's just so hard.
So that is my sweet spot right

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now.
I tend to have a soft spot for

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those folks.
Yeah, middle schoolers are

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funny.
It's like they're like middle

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schoolers.
It's like that's when they're,

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you know, still figuring stuff
out.

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But then at the same time, like
they're at that.

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That's when they're at the age
when they start to think they,

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like, know stuff.
And it's like, it's like, yeah,

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you know stuff, but you don't
know stuff.

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So it's like middle schoolers.
Are, you know, a little?

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Are super funny to me.
Yeah, you know enough to be

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dangerous, is what I would do.
Enough to be dangerous.

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I love that.
Speaking of being dangerous,

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here's what we're going to do
today.

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We are going to rank actually,
let's do a little housekeeping.

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Let's do that first.
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things it's usually over there.
Yeah, we do a lot of film noir

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and stuff like that just, well,
one of our school counselors, I

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just picked up a hitchhiker in
Plymouth.

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Very good, my friend, very good.
All right, school counselors.

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So he might be out tomorrow.
We might.

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Staff member short reading my
text as we do the show that just

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jumped out at me but
patreon.com/pod and the

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Pendulum.
I want to know the patron level

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to release.
We did a hot dog eating contest

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with two eighth graders this
week.

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Like at what level do I release
that video?

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Like what is the feed where we?
Release, you can't, you can't

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put a, you can't put a price on
on 1st experiences like that,

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you know?
Those kids were champs man.

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One of them like puked after
eating 2 hot dogs in a minute,

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and then he sat back down and
finished another three in a

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total of 5 minutes for five hot
dogs.

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And that is resiliency.
That is what I teach these

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middle schoolers as a school
counselor, how to be resilient.

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And my friend, he was very
resilient, OK.

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They'll they'll get to it.
That's that's light work.

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Me and me and Garrett went and
saw Trouble every day last week

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and I had three hot dogs before
the movie started.

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Dead ass.
It just it's tough because like

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they go down so easy and that
being much, you know, I'm not

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even going there.
Arielle could pull a dirty

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there.
I'll just get cancelled.

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They go down so easy and you
know, then all of a sudden you

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get like the bubble guts like
345 hot dogs in.

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But I love a good hot dog.
That that's the only thing that

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found Destination 3 was missing
at their Little Town festival.

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There was no hot dog eating
contest.

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Good, good point.
Good point.

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Well, thank you for bringing it
back in.

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Thank you for reigning us back
in here.

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As I say, we'll do this in an
hour today, in like 8 minutes

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in.
Here's what we're doing today.

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We are going to rank worse the
first all of the Final

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Destination films as well as at
a separate ranking all of the

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opening major set pieces.
We're not going to rate every

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kill in Final Destination, but
just like the six opening set

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pieces and I say we like trade
off, we'll do like movie set

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piece, movie set piece.
I think that'll keep it kind of

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fresh and snappy.
All right.

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OK, let's do it.
All right.

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Do you want to kick things off?
Yeah, I'll kick things off.

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I'm excited because our for for
the first time ever, this is the

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first time this ever happened.
Our consensus list is my exact

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ranking for this franchise.
For real.

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Yeah, I was looking down at it
and yeah, the so our our like

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crew consensus pick is my exact
list.

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So I I don't have to do the
thing today where I'm like,

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well, the list is this, but my
personal like no, this is mine.

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So that's actually a it works
out very nicely.

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So at the bottom we'll start off
with the movies ranking them

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worst to 1st at number six.
No surprise here.

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Coming in with six points is the
final destination, which is the

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4th entry.
I feel like this movie is it's

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become one of those classic
punching bag kind of movies to

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where like everybody just can
always agree that this one goes

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at the bottom and not because,
and I don't even think it's

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terrible.
Like it's not it's not.

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It's like it's it's definitely
the worst of the bunch.

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Something has to go at the
bottom, but at the same time,

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it's a final destination movie.
Still, it has the things, it has

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a couple good moments in it.
And I will say that I think the

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finale at the mall slash movie
theater, like all the stuff

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going on there is one of the
better climaxes of the of the

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series.
Honestly, like if if the whole

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movie could have been on the
level of that third act, it

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would be pretty solid.
But unfortunately the the 3D

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effects and reliance on CGI
definitely drags this one down

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to the bottom.
Yeah, I think it's a matter,

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like you said, if something has
to go last and it does have, you

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know, like I don't think there's
any bad Final Destination movie.

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Like it's not a franchise or I'm
like, if I do a rewatch, I'm

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like, woof, I'm going to skip
this movie.

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It's not one of those for me
where is like with Halloween,

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I'm going to skip Resurrection
every single time.

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Like I'm not going to go back to
that.

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I might decide to not go back to
the David Gordon Green movies at

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this point.
I'm like, I can skip those for a

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little bit.
Not that those are bad, but I'm

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like they kind of taper off
pretty quickly for me.

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Whereas like this, like it hits
the formula and knows what it's

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doing.
It's just like like you said,

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the 3D where it had to be 3D,
that was not great.

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And also it does this thing
where every character is an

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asshole like.
There's yeah, this is the root.

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The cast is awful for this one.
Like, I mean, there's no,

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there's no like, you know,
actors of note in it.

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They all like I I don't even
remember their names.

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I've seen it.
I've seen this movie multiple

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times.
I couldn't tell you any of their

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names right now.
It's a it's a really bad cast.

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Except for except for Bubba
Gump.

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He Bubba's good.
It does do like with the

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credits, something cool where
you have the kind of like X-ray

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vision of all the major kills
throughout because they thought

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at the time like this was going
to be it, like it'll be the last

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one.
So it kind of like plays the

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hits and it does like the 3D
rendering and the like X-ray

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visions of like the bones
breaking, the tendon snapping,

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decapitations of like all the
major kills with the credits,

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which is really, really fun.
And that guy said there's no

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necessary bad one.
But like the thing was like,

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let's have a white supremacist
in here for some reason.

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And it's like, why are we doing
this in a Final Destination

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movie?
I don't need that.

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So this was last on everybody's
list.

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So out of six films, it got 6
total points for an average of

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1.
And I will do the opening

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rankings works the first like at
#6 the final destination, the

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NASCAR opening scene, which is
not a bad opening scene.

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Like it's not bad at all.
It's just something has to go

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last and there's a lot of 3D.
Yeah, I mean a lot of rendering.

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I mean some of the kills in it
are decent.

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The thing the thing with the
NASCAR opening is in

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comparatively to pretty much any
of the other opening

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premonitions is this one doesn't
play on a common fear.

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Like, you know, like a lot of
people aren't hanging out at the

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racetrack.
Like it's that's it's not that

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common of a thing versus all the
other ones play on like a very

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common fear that anyone can kind
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It's like, OK, yeah, maybe I'll
be at an event and something

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happens.
But like it's just it's just not

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it's not universal enough.
It's a it's a little just like,

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OK, yeah, what are you doing at
the NASCAR track?

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Yeah, sure, something like that
might happen because cars crash

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there all the time, so it's like
that already makes sense.

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That's why people go like people
go to make jokes of it in the

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movie, like they're going for
the crashes.

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Yeah.
So that's why that one

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definitely falls towards the
bottom, because it doesn't

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really tap into that.
I was going to ask you that is

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whether or not how some of these
rankings go relates to, you

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know, how likely it is for you
to possibly experience this

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because like and look, no shade
on NASCAR, but it's just not my

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thing.
And I know at the time that this

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came out and I think 2009 and
NASCAR was huge like it and it

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still is huge and it's very
popular.

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There's like a like thousands
and thousands go to these like

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racing speedways, but the
thought of like sitting outside

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in 90° temperature and watching
someone turn left for three

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hours, like it just doesn't have
a lot of appeal to me

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whatsoever.
So like, there's no situation

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where I would ever go to a
NASCAR event.

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Like even if I was single and
the person I was really

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interested in was like, I really
want to go to NASCAR.

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Like I'd be like, cool, go with
your Boo, go with your

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girlfriends.
Like I'm going to sit this one

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out and just play Donkey Kong.
Like I don't want to get laid

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that bad to go to a NASCAR event
like this.

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So there's, like you said,
there's No Fear of it here for

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me.
Once yeah yeah couldn't be me I

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wouldn't I I just wouldn't be in
those stands it it just wouldn't

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happen yeah and so yeah at the
bottom that one it also makes.

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Sense a lot of 3D like they have
one section of crowd and then

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they render it over and over
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It does do one interesting thing
where like 1 character who

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survives the initial outbreak,
like when she runs out and you

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think that she saved, she gets
like crushed.

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Like, not like right thereafter,
like in like right outside the

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stadium, which was something
new.

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So yeah.
And once once again, no trying.

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Something a little different.
Yeah, once again, nobody has.

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I don't think there's a common
phobia of tire from the sky

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falling and crushing me.
You know, it doesn't doesn't

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doesn't quite play.
Yeah.

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So that one, it got 12 points
all together for an average of

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two.
What I had to do for these

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because one of our Co hosts had
has not seen the bloodlines.

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So we went by the total average,
you know, if in terms of like

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what their points were.
So we one Co host could only

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rate 5 and I didn't want to Ding
bloodlines all right at #5 for

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movies.
This was actually a little bit

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surprising to me that it came in
this low in that final

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destination too.
It got 20 points for a 3.33

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average and I'm a little shocked
it came in so low in the movie

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rankings.
Rewatching it, I kind of had it

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closer to like my middle to the
top A for the opening and I

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think it's a lot of fun and it's
also starring Wishmaster 3,

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Zone, AJ Cook and unrecognizable
in this movie.

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Bringing back Allie Lauder is
clear before you know for a

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leather go round.
It just didn't make that cut.

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And what was it?
Why do you think this one is so

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low?
It once again, because this is

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my exact ranking.
This is where I have it.

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And yeah, I mean, this is this
is actually been like if I have

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any hot takes about the series,
it is that because you're you

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say you're surprised, but but
Riddle me this before we get to

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like when we get to the
openings.

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Besides the opening, what's the
best part of this movie?

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I can't like it has nothing.
It has nothing memorable.

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It's too soap opera E like
because this is the one where

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it's like everyone's complete
strain because most because in

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most of the movies, the people
involved in the in the things

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usually know each other in some
capacity.

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This and bloodlines are the only
two where it's just like the

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catastrophe is happening to like
a group of complete strangers.

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So so in this one, it doesn't
work in that way.

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There's I can't like as again,
aside from that opening, none of

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the like the the the only other
memorable scene for me in this

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one is the very last 1 though
kid exploding at the BBQ.

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Like aside from that, there's
nothing going on in this movie

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and a few.
Things I really like about this

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one, number one, it surprises
you a bit in that like when she

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gets out of the car, like her
friends are immediately poleaxed

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and go up in flames like that I
wasn't expecting.

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So that is a kind of a nice
little.

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You almost even want to say riff
on the formula because it is

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only the second movie, so it's
kind of too soon to call it a

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formula.
I do like like the burnout in

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this one.
Like he actually has a fairly

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good emotional moment where he's
like, hey, if something happens

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to me here is the key to my
apartment, please get rid of

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like all the drugs and
pornography so my mom doesn't

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see them.
Like, that's actually pretty

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affecting.
Like I, you know, 'cause I'm

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getting older, I'm like, I might
have to, do not like, do have to

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do a will.
But not only that, like some

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sort of like, hey, if something
were to happen to me, here is

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how to let everybody know that
something has happened to me.

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Like, I have a great fear that
like one day you guys are all

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going to log on and be like,
where's Mike?

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And like, my funeral will have
happened.

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And my wife is not letting
anyone know, you know, she's

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like already moved on and is
like setting up Tinder dates or

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whatever.
Who knows she would not do that.

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But you know, you get what I'm
coming from.

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She just.
She just can't wait to empty out

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that Patreon account and run.
She but she's also oh, she knows

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how much I'm insured for and she
wants me to up it this summer so

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yeah, that's my life.
She.

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I also like like the lottery
winner, like that scene.

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It's this is what I like is that
it's the movie that embraces the

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comic side of this series.
It's the first movie is like

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very serious.
It plays, it doesn't really play

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it for laughs for the most part.
This is when, like, death is

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starting to do some real work
and it's like, OK, this premise

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is kind of ludicrous.
Let's lean into how ludicrous it

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is and have some fun with it.
So that's why I enjoy it.

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See, I I don't see the comedy
coming in yet in this one.

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And again, that's like my other
thing too is like the soap opera

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aspect, like feels really weird.
But but yeah, so an interesting

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thing with these movies, a
couple of directors kind of

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trade off in between.
And the two that are at the

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bottom are both the David R
Ellis and Trees.

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Yeah.
Who was a great stuntman and

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stunt performer.
And then, you know, he directed

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these and they're not
necessarily.

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But again, I don't think there's
a bad Final Destination movie.

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So no, no here at.
The bottom of the list?

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I'm still going to watch it
every time.

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And yeah.
I I don't skip any of these.

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So that's, you know, I, I, I
don't want to.

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Oh, it's the bad.
No, it's definitely not a bad

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movie.
Do you want to give our number 5

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for the opening kills or opening
set pieces?

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So if we were going to talk
about anything, I'm surprised by

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having this one down fairly low.
At #5 is a little surprising to

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me.
Is the the plane explosion from

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Final destination one from the
original.

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And I mean, for me, I have this
a little bit higher on my

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opening opening set pieces just
because again, like within the

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context of the series, I think
of fear of flying is so common.

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Like that is such a common
thing.

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It's one of those things like
my, my best friend is terrified

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no matter how many times he's
flown, He like is terrified of

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flying.
He's like, he's like, we're in a

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fucking metal box in the sky.
Like that's crazy, you know, and

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the idea of an airplane is
crazy.

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So it's like for me, this one is
a little bit higher up on my

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list just because of the again,
like the relatability aspect to

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it.
But then this one is a little

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different than some of the other
because like the other opening

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kind of set pieces focus on like
obviously it's this catastrophe.

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But then in this big set piece,
there's smaller moments where

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you see each like little
individual kind of death in

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this.
And this one doesn't have as

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many of those.
This one, you know, we obviously

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like people Catching Fire.
That's fucking like scary shit.

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And then we have people kind of
getting ripped out the windows

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out in the sky and stuff.
But but this one doesn't have

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the like, oh the, the like the
the car runs down and hit

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somebody in the head or like it
doesn't have like the, the like

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little, it doesn't have the
little individual moments.

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But I think as an overall
catastrophe, I think works

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really well.
I had it lower than I expected

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to when I was ranking these.
I had done a rewatch over

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Memorial Day weekend and a
couple things jumped out at me.

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Why I had it a lot lower.
Number one, it is like to your

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point, all the other ones have
so much going on and they're so

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intricate, intricate in their
design and the setup and just

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it's like this such an elaborate
set piece.

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And this one is so much more
straightforward and it's over so

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quick.
Like I actually had to when I

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did my rewatch, I think I would
maybe like half had my eye on it

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and had to go back and redo it.
I'm like, that's it.

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Like I just remembered it being
so much bigger and through no

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fault of the movie.
I'm also like have been re

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watching lost the TV show from
Damon Lindelof carton cues and

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the plane crash there is done
better Like it's just that is

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like done to me so much better
that.

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Or the Yellow Jackets plane
crash is also really good.

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It's been so long since I
watched season 1.

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I'm so far behind on that show.
But you're right.

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Like from what I remember,
that's also done really well.

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I do love like when they're off
the plane and they're arguing

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and you have like Stiffler go,
Oh no.

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And then you see the plane
explode.

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That is pretty awesome.
That is such a cool moment.

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Yeah, because I think the I
think the follow through is also

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important when it comes to these
with these scenes.

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And yeah, I like the just like
you see it just like kind of

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play starting to play out in the
background and it's just like

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you see the explosion and the
glass, you know, shatters and

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everything.
I was like, so like, I really

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like the follow through scene on
that one too.

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This was fairly low, not just in
the rankings but overall for us,

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like it was 14 points altogether
for only like 2 and a third

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points per ranking.
So to give you an idea, like our

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top film is more than like
double that.

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So it was really low in a lot of
people's on a lot of people's

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list.
All right, do you want to do the

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next film #4?
Yeah.

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So coming up on in the number
four slot of our movie rankings

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with 19 points is the most
recent film, the one that we

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just reviewed last week, Final
Destination Bloodlines coming in

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here at #4.
And again, like I, I saw, I've

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softened a little bit on this
one compared to my first, like

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initial reaction and after our
conversation last week.

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But still at the same time,
it's, it's just, it's too, it's

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too up and down, you know, to to
kind of be put into the top

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three because again, like, as I
mentioned last week, there's a

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really solid chunk of a good
final Destination movie in this,

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but it's also surrounded by a
lot of really dumb and bad at

443
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,160
the same time.
So it's like it's it's it's a

444
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,760
very it's an odd entry.
You know, obviously it's the

445
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,440
most successful one in terms of
finances and which is great.

446
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,800
We're going to get more very
excited for that.

447
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,080
And I appreciate their attempts
at trying to add in some more

448
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,840
lore aspects with the whole
bloodlines and like just making,

449
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,440
I mean, we already knew death
was a petty bitch, but this

450
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,800
takes it to the next level when
he's like, no, there's entire

451
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840
bloodlines that shouldn't be
here because they avoided death.

452
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,120
It's like, my goodness, my guy,
you got you're taking your job

453
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:56,320
too seriously.
So bloodlines is it's an

454
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,160
interesting one.
I appreciate the effort.

455
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,720
The directors are definitely,
like, fans of the series.

456
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,480
So like, you know, I'm not gonna
poo poo it, poo poo them for

457
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,320
that.
But like, at the same time, it's

458
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,320
just not nearly as strong.
So an interesting thing about

459
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,680
the list of the even numbered
ones in the bottom 3 and the top

460
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,520
three are the odd numbered
entries.

461
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,440
It's like that mean something.
Yeah.

462
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,880
It's kind of like the Star Trek
films or all the even films are

463
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,600
the good ones and all the odd
ones are the ones to avoid.

464
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,280
Although I've never watched a
Star Trek movie, but that's what

465
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,680
I'm told.
I am surprised that Bloodlines

466
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,200
is a little lower and one of our
panelists, like she has not had

467
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,880
a chance to see this yet.
But even if she had, I think at

468
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,600
most it would have like swapped
places with our next film just

469
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,400
because of where it ranks.
I you know, I wasn't

470
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,440
necessarily.
I love all the Final Destination

471
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,800
films, or at least as a shame.
I like them a lot.

472
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,480
I'm on record of saying like
it's the best, most consistent

473
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,560
franchise of the first decade of
the century.

474
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,800
Like I would take it over Saw
just because I love the tone of

475
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,360
it more.
Like Saw does some similar

476
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:09,320
things in terms of the set
pieces for the kills, but it's

477
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320
not always my cup of tea.
Although I do have a greater

478
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,640
appreciation for it after
covering the franchise.

479
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,600
This just this film just hit me
at the right time.

480
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Like I I'm like, you know what,
it's Friday afternoon.

481
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,640
I've had a really long week.
I've been working like a

482
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,320
bastard.
I'm just going to go see the new

483
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,720
final destination tonight and
I'm going to go see it in like

484
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,640
40 X IMAX.
And it was a pack theater.

485
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Everybody just got it at the
same time, like at the exact

486
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760
same moment.
And I think it was like the

487
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,280
reveal that Eric's a bastard,
basically, that mom had an

488
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,400
affair, cheated on dad.
At that moment, everybody in the

489
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,080
theater just realized, oh, this
is a comedy.

490
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,160
And from that point on, like, it
was one of the best movie going

491
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,200
crowds I've ever been in.
And sometimes a movie just hits

492
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,280
right because you're not wrong.
Like after the opening set piece

493
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,040
there's a huge chunk that lags
and then things just speed up

494
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,880
and slow down for no reason.
Like you have the exposition

495
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,200
dump when you meet all the
cousins and the aunt and uncle.

496
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,640
It's like that is like played
way too quickly.

497
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,480
Act 3 is over.
Like if you get up to pee when

498
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,960
act three starts, you might miss
the whole thing.

499
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,280
But there's.
Other just like the fake out

500
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,440
death, the when she calls her
own shot basically with like

501
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
there's the leaf blower and the
soccer ball and I might hit in

502
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160
the head like she's just like, I
would not want to play horse

503
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,360
with her because like she's
going to be like hitting crazy

504
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,480
shots at that point.
Eric's fake out the whole MRI

505
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,840
scene and like the yeah.
Piercing like basically like to

506
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
like it from the from the BBQ
through the hospital.

507
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,720
Like if the rest of the movie
was on par with that section,

508
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,360
like this would be one of the
higher ranked ones.

509
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,080
But the the beginning is a
little bit wonky to kind of

510
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,760
start.
And then yeah, that finale is

511
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,640
just like, probably, I'd say the
finale.

512
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,000
It's the worst one in the series
for Black.

513
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,640
I, you know what?
It's that or two, I think, in

514
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,840
terms of finale.
Once again, I don't even

515
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,280
remember the finale in two I'm
she's driving.

516
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,560
To a lake?
Yeah.

517
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,520
She drowns.
They kind of bring that back.

518
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,640
So I would say like what it
proves is you don't need to be

519
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,160
an hour and 50 minutes long,
like 90 minutes in and out for.

520
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,400
These, yeah, this one's the
longest one I of the of the

521
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,560
franchise, I believe.
Also, Grandma Iris's scheme to

522
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,720
like, avoid death, like it
doesn't work.

523
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,800
Like she just basically locks
herself away from society and

524
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,560
death is like, I got you fam.
Like when it's your time on the

525
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,080
list, because he death works in
like a very meticulous order.

526
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,360
Like he is not like he's very
OCD.

527
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120
He's not going out of the order
of operations.

528
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,720
So Iris for all of her, like I
have figured things out and I've

529
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,720
locked myself away from society.
Nah, you didn't.

530
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,840
It's just like, that's a massive
list, you know?

531
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Death does not have Santa Claus
powers where he can do all of it

532
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,680
in one night.
Apparently so.

533
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,640
And also grant Auntie Brenda
just dropping out of the movie

534
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,760
once her whole family is just
basically genocide and then it's

535
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,560
like.
It's it's so weird because

536
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,560
again, this is like the most hot
and cold because there's again,

537
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,040
some really great stuff, but
then this also has some big

538
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,920
dumb.
It's like, like this is like,

539
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,920
yeah, this is a big.
Check and Aunt Brenda before you

540
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,080
go to prom.
Like they're so, you know,

541
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,120
they're so happy about like I
got my date with Jenny.

542
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,160
Brenda is home.
Like eating Ben and Jerry

543
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,440
straight from the bin at that
point.

544
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,760
I don't know.
All right, a #4 for our

545
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,120
openings, Final destination
three with the roller coaster,

546
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,480
which is an opening I really
love.

547
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,720
I am a roller coaster junkie.
It got 18 points, so an average

548
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,400
of like 3 from everybody.
So right in the middle.

549
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,520
I love roller coasters.
I used to not and now there's

550
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,480
like not a single one I won't go
on.

551
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,800
I always worry I'm going to fall
out and die.

552
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,920
But that is part of the appeal.
And this one did it for me.

553
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Like all of it just like the
being trapped upside down and

554
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,560
hanging on for dear life.
The kind of like bouncing around

555
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,280
like a pinball off of the off of
the guardrails.

556
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,440
Like it's the fact that you get
like the little kids on it as

557
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,200
well.
And I don't know, like it's a

558
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,960
shitty way to go.
I mean, you're trapped in there.

559
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,040
And I it worked for me as as a
lot of Final Destination Three

560
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,200
works for me.
So I really enjoyed that

561
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,560
opening, Gil.
Yeah, this is, this was pretty

562
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,120
high up on my list.
I put this at #2 as far as

563
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,920
openings go, because again, like
the, the context of this one,

564
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,040
because what roller coasters do,
Like roller coasters are a thing

565
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,520
that we enjoy because they're
dangerous, because they like

566
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,160
thrill us and scare us.
So I think that's very

567
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,560
fascinating to play on that.
I think as far as like that goes

568
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,440
also just like I really, I'm a
sucker for the way that it

569
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,920
transitions like from like, oh,
it's people are screaming

570
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,800
because they're having fun to
now it's oh, they're screaming

571
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,720
because it's fucking, they're
dying and you know, and

572
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600
everything's going wrong.
So like I like the dichotomy of

573
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,960
that.
It still manages to have it's

574
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,160
like little moments like
throughout it as well, whether

575
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,000
it's like playing on the fear of
like, you know, everyone's

576
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320
always been on a roller coaster
be like, oh, what if my harness

577
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,080
just comes undone, Like what
then?

578
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,400
You know, like, you know, so
it's like you have you have

579
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,000
those moments, you have people,
you know, plummeting to their

580
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,520
death.
Like I always love like a when

581
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,720
a, a body like is falling and
hit something, there's always

582
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,679
that like really big thud, you
know, like it, it, it looks

583
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,199
really good.
Like they really blend the, the,

584
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,000
the practical and the, the CGI
really well in this scene as

585
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,400
well.
So yeah, I would I, I have the

586
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,639
roller coaster up pretty high on
my list.

587
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,960
I I really enjoy this one.
And isn't it, it's kind of wild

588
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,199
to me that how often I, like I
said, like I'm a roller coaster

589
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,600
junkie and amusement park
junkie, that you look at the

590
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,199
people that are operating these
rides and they don't.

591
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,239
And it's just a guy.
Car yet it's just can't drive a

592
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,280
car yet if you know and this is
who I'm putting like my life in

593
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,199
their hands that they're going
to like check the safety

594
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,560
precautions that.
They're pressing buttons and

595
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,120
they don't even know what they
do.

596
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,480
You know, like.
I would not surprise me if one

597
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,880
of them like just wanders off to
get a pretzel dog and it just

598
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,600
keeps going around.
When we went to Universal last

599
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,560
time, like one of my favorite
rides is the Hulk and my

600
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,840
daughter and I went on at a
bunch together and then there

601
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,400
was no line for whatever reason,
I think cuz everyone was on the

602
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,920
Velocicoaster, which is the last
time I've been truly terrified

603
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,440
on a ride.
Like I'm going to die on this.

604
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Like I'm going to fall out 100
feet above this water and it's

605
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,320
going to like my body is going
to feel like it's hitting dry

606
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,920
cement.
So we go back on the Hulk and

607
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,560
for the third time I'm like,
just go in the single rider

608
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,440
line.
So that way we're not standing

609
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,360
in line.
She got on before me and the

610
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,680
coaster got stuck and it was me
and another dad in the single

611
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,840
light rider line.
Just like, where is it like, oh,

612
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,720
it's stuck right now?
We were like, how are we going

613
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,640
to explain this?
Oh yeah, we just let our kid go

614
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,040
on this coaster on their own.
Like are they upside down?

615
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,520
They're like, no, they're like,
Are you sure?

616
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,960
Like oh, that can't happen.
And I'm like, I think it could.

617
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,240
So yeah, I love Long story
short.

618
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:15,960
I love fucking coasters so much.
All right, Devon, what's our

619
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,640
number three movie?
All right, going into the top

620
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,320
half of our rankings, coming in
with 23 points, an average of

621
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,680
3.8.
Is Final Destination the OG, the

622
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,400
original?
And I mean, I've never been, you

623
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,600
know, as you guys have heard on
many ranking lists, I'm never

624
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,800
like the a stickler for the
original or anything.

625
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,120
But you know, obviously this
movie, you know, didn't know

626
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,480
that it was going to become what
it becomes.

627
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,720
It's kind of its own singular
thing.

628
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Jeffrey Reddick had this idea
because he was he was vying for

629
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,280
The X-Files was the famous
impetus for this one.

630
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,000
And so I mean, just as far as
introducing a concept, I think

631
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,520
is is really good.
Devin Sawa has one of our pre

632
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,640
eminent final boys of fantastic
in this as well.

633
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,840
And like you said, this one
doesn't have as much humor as

634
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,360
some of the other entries do.
It's it is playing it straight

635
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,120
up.
But like when it does have it's

636
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,120
humor, it's like this like kind
of it's still a very dark humor.

637
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,720
And James Wong directs this one
and #3 again, because he's

638
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,800
trading off with David R Ellis
kind of.

639
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,120
And, and yeah, I don't know.
I, I like, you know, again,

640
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,440
like, you know, going on this
journey with Alex and like

641
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,040
figuring everything out how, how
this all kind of works.

642
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,480
You know, it's a, it's one of
the few.

643
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,880
They ditched this later on,
which I think is probably

644
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,720
better.
But like it's the only time like

645
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:55,560
where death is kind of visually
represent it a little bit,

646
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,240
whether it, you know, they do
like the trickling water, they

647
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,200
do the shadows and stuff like
that.

648
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,840
There's even like a like sound
effect or something that they

649
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,000
do.
They ditch this later on and

650
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,960
like they don't personify death
at all.

651
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,760
But this is the only one where
they do kind of do a little bit

652
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,760
of that.
And I don't know, I do like the

653
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,440
I like the atmosphere of this
one.

654
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,040
This is the I would say if any
of them are spooky, if any of

655
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,000
them are scary, it would
probably be this one.

656
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,200
The rest of them, it's like
they're scary but in a different

657
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,680
way.
But this, but this one has like

658
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,680
an actual like kind of more
traditional horror kind of

659
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,320
atmosphere and tone to it.
Yeah, Sean, William Scott, I

660
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,880
want to think of the one year
stretch between 99 and 2000

661
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,360
where he does like Steve
Stiffler and American Pie.

662
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,160
He was on top of the world.
And then you do this movie The

663
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,840
year after and it's such like a
totally different character.

664
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Like you think that he is going
to be the asshole in this movie

665
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,720
and it's not.
It's the dude from Oh God, he

666
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,880
was in Dawson's Creek.
He was like 1 of like.

667
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Paints and.
Boyfriends Kerr Smith yes who

668
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,480
famously Carter you Dick.
They turned like Kerr Smith's

669
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,920
character into like a gay
character in Dawson's Creek and

670
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,080
my understanding is like they
did it the writers did it

671
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,480
specifically because they knew
he would hate that and they just

672
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,720
couldn't stand him.
It's like my understanding.

673
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,640
And they're like, well, F you,
dude.

674
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,320
So Curse Smith plays the asshole
in this movie.

675
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,600
Yeah.
Final destinations of fun horror

676
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,680
movie.
Like you said, like, death does

677
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,040
work in this one.
And that it, like, turns the

678
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,880
knobs on the toilet so that it
starts to leak and then the

679
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,600
water trickles out and then the
water mysteriously fades away.

680
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,560
You get the music cue of John
Denver's like, Rocky Mountain

681
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,040
High throughout the film, which
is a amazing song.

682
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,560
Like I love me some John Denver,
but knowing like how he died,

683
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,760
like basically flying his plane
into a mountain.

684
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:11,440
Is really scary and tragic and
having that play over and over

685
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,080
again is really, really good.
And the fact that everyone aside

686
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,160
from Clear is like scared at
some point of Devon Sala, like

687
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,360
the teacher, in particular your
teacher who's not grateful at

688
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,160
all about him saving her life.
She's like, get away from you,

689
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,520
freak.
You frighten me.

690
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,800
Like that is what a thing to say
to a kid who's been through a

691
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,280
trauma and has saved your life.
That is one of the best kills.

692
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,800
Like when she buys it in the
kitchen and how the whole thing

693
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,120
goes down and then you're like,
Devin Sour, don't touch the

694
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,680
knife.
Don't.

695
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,120
And you got bloody footprints.
Shows up with the.

696
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,080
But I think, dude, I, I don't
know if we, we mentioned this

697
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,040
when we were talking about this
recently in the first one, how

698
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,400
they somehow like do a whole
forensics investigation in about

699
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,120
two hours to know that like
Devin Savo was there and he

700
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,040
touched the knife.
Like they somehow have like

701
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,400
locked this crime scene down
that quickly.

702
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,520
It's just fun.
Like the bus kill.

703
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,080
Like I remember like watching
that and it coming out of

704
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,800
nowhere and being like, holy
shit, like I am.

705
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,640
And the bus kill the the the one
the like when homing gets cut in

706
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920
half from the like sheet metal
from the train.

707
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,040
Like that's a really.
Good one.

708
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,520
He gets the great decapitation
and it's all practical effects

709
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,480
at this point.
Like it's all like we're doing

710
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,960
this, you know, on screen and
it's and it's getting great kick

711
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,680
start to a franchise.
I have it lower in my overall

712
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,720
rankings.
I think Ari had it number one in

713
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,240
her rankings.
Yeah, she, she had this one at

714
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,480
her number one.
But again, she also said that

715
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,080
these kind of change depending
on the day as well.

716
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:05,440
So #3 on our openings for these,
we have with an average of 3.5

717
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:11,280
that we have found Destination
5, the bus suspension bridge 1.

718
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,800
And I think I have this one up
pretty high as well, because I

719
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,840
think I think this one has like
the best as far as like

720
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,520
individual moments go.
Like I mean, somebody gets like

721
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000
hot tarred.
We get somebody that, you know,

722
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,720
goes the rebar.
We have obviously the various

723
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,440
crashes and stuff.
Like I think this one has a lot

724
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,240
of really good variety to it.
I think this one is also like

725
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,680
the most like thrilling as far
as like this.

726
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,880
You know, you you really kind of
have this like a more kind of

727
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,040
action set piece to it with with
homie like, you know, running to

728
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,600
try to survive this and he like
you know, him like kind of

729
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,840
avoiding certain things, but
then still getting got it in the

730
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,080
end.
So I think as far as like that

731
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,440
goes, I really enjoy it.
I think it only gets dinged

732
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:04,480
because this is at this point I
the third car related, you know,

733
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,520
transportation related 1.
So like it maybe gets a little

734
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040
bit dinged for that, but at the
same time, like I think it's

735
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,880
still really strong, like even
comparatively to like the other

736
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,000
highway scene that we'll talk
about.

737
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,280
But like, I think it's still
like, I think it's still very

738
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,800
strong and it has some of the
best individual moments to it.

739
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,320
Yeah, it's a nice.
This whole film was a nice

740
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,200
rebound from Part 4.
There's like funny moments like

741
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,560
the dude coming out of the
bathroom is the shit has hit the

742
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,200
fan.
He's like, what the fuck?

743
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,880
And it's like, how have you
noticed none of this?

744
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,680
But it's also like a pretty
funny little moment.

745
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,600
You get kids in peril that are
there.

746
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,040
It is like one of those things
where it kind of walks like a a

747
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,120
tightrope for a lot of it.
Like there's much more of a

748
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,520
chance that you're going to
maybe be able to survive.

749
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,320
Like you do feel maybe a little
bit less hemmed in if you can

750
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,640
and just get to certain spots.
So there's that tension that is

751
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560
there as well.
And it's a great like you said,

752
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,000
it's like another, you know,
like moving vehicle piece.

753
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,360
But that's all right.
Like it's I mean, we spend so

754
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,600
much time in cars.
You know, we spend so much time

755
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,720
like on transportation.
And again, you have like a lot

756
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,600
of little kids put into peril
too here.

757
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,800
So I think that really works as
well.

758
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:33,960
So that came in at #3 our number
2 movie was Final Destination 3,

759
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:37,040
the one where like Mary
Elizabeth Winstead, like she

760
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,200
does some work, like she did
some real work to carry this

761
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,840
movie on her shoulders.
Like I would say she is probably

762
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,320
like the biggest star to come
out of these movies when all is

763
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,160
said and done.
Like she has gone on to have

764
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,480
maybe the best overall career.
And it's kind of shows here like

765
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960
she is head and shoulders above
everybody else.

766
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,160
This one is a little different
from the others.

767
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Like I would say this one has a
nasty streak to it that I don't

768
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,800
necessarily think is in the
others.

769
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Like Part 4, the characters are
all assholes.

770
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,200
But there's a nastiness to this
one in terms of like the two

771
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,280
young women who they go like sun
tanning and end up getting like

772
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,120
burned alive.
Like that is actually like in

773
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,000
terms of their deaths, it is a
step above and beyond what you

774
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,360
typically see in terms of just
like really mean spirit.

775
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,360
There's almost like a Wolf Creek
or hostile level of hostility

776
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,600
towards the characters at that
point.

777
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,360
And the ending of this, like it,
you could actually argue the

778
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,200
subway kill at the end is even
better than the roller coaster

779
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,880
kill at the beginning.
Like that's really good.

780
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,200
And the way this ends were just
cuts to black and you hear it go

781
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,120
off the rails like chef's kiss.
Really well done.

782
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,400
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's so
close.

783
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,040
I, I've swapped back and forth,
this one being my number one or

784
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:15,720
my #2 it's only been recently
that I have firmly kind of put

785
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:19,280
this in at my number two slot.
We did a, we did a commentary

786
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,760
track for our Patreon, me and
Garrett did for on this movie.

787
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,640
And yes, obviously Mary
Elizabeth Winstead, this was her

788
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,920
year of she had her her double
header of this and a black Xmas,

789
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,760
you know, kind of establishing
herself as a scream queen.

790
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,640
But but but we got to put some
respect on Ryan Merriman D com

791
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,480
legend.
People know him from like Luck

792
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,880
of the Irish and other Disney
Channel original movies.

793
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,320
So Ryan Merriman he's he's he's
there too.

794
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,800
OK, I think I think they make a
very good final duo because they

795
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,880
have this interesting dynamic
that's like they were only

796
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,920
friends because of their like
significant others, you know,

797
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,040
like he was the best friend of
her boyfriend who dies.

798
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,760
Shout out Jesse Moss, another
genre daddy in this as well.

799
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,880
But but yeah, this one, I think
I really enjoy the addition of

800
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,880
the clues and the photos because
she's the she's the yearbook

801
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,040
photographer.
I think that's a really nice

802
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,320
touch.
And this one and our number one

803
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,800
film do the best at merging the
tones.

804
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,040
Like you said.
Like it's like there's like this

805
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,200
movie is like serious and sad.
Like, I mean, they spend a lot

806
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,880
of time at funerals in this
movie to the point where it

807
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,840
becomes like a gag almost.
So it's like people like, you

808
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,080
know, they are like reeling from
their grief and everything and

809
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,880
trying to figure this out.
But yet at the same time, this

810
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,920
movie has a really great sense
of humor, like you said, like a

811
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600
little wickedness to it, a
little mean streak to it.

812
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,200
And I've always appreciated.
And like you said, I I also love

813
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,880
when these films work in a human
antagonist as well.

814
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,520
And the two young women that get
killed in the tanning scene.

815
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Best match cut in in horror is
that the is that the best match

816
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,840
cut?
Edit in horror like the they're

817
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,040
actually right.
The tanning beds to the the

818
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,040
caskets like come on.
Yeah, but they're super nice.

819
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Like they invite Wendy to go
with them.

820
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,960
They want to do something nice
for her.

821
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,320
And I think there's something
something like you said, a

822
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,920
little more tragic because like
it's taking place right at high

823
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,840
school graduation.
So it's like huge point in all

824
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,400
of their life.
They're like, all right, we're

825
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,960
going to move on.
And you know, now we're going

826
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,520
to.
Become we got our whole lives

827
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,160
ahead of us.
No, you don't.

828
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,880
Well, your whole lives are about
it's going to take as much time

829
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,440
as you can't even watch like a
season of Seinfeld on Netflix in

830
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,960
terms of binging it.
That's how much time you've got

831
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,120
left for our number two set
piece.

832
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,320
We're at a little bit of recency
bias here with the Sky Needle

833
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,840
falling apart that opens
bloodlines and I know you have

834
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:10,600
this lower than most.
I don't think it would have #1

835
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,320
is so far and away at the top
like it didn't skew things.

836
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,600
I we talked about this a lot
last week.

837
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,800
Like for the most part, I really
enjoy it.

838
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,120
What Dings it for me a bit is
the green screen work, which I

839
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,680
think is really bad and
noticeable.

840
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:31,760
And it however I think like the
musical cues like Reign of Fire,

841
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:38,560
Ring of Fire and bad mood rising
and shout the fuck them kids

842
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,960
moment with like your shitty
Nelson Muntz in a sweater vest

843
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,320
getting crushed at the end by a
piano.

844
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,800
And the way all the chaos works,
like your elevator bellhop doing

845
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,320
some real work trying to save
people only to get, you know,

846
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,680
killed because there's too many
people in the elevator.

847
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,960
I, I, I don't know.
For me it worked despite some of

848
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,040
the shoddy CGI and green screen.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I

849
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:10,840
mentioned in our slack that, you
know, I think the openings was

850
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,960
is harder to rank than the
movies itself because I think

851
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,880
they're all good to a degree,
you know, minus the NASCAR one

852
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,400
kind of being a significantly
weaker.

853
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,040
But I think this one, it's very
strong in the fact that like

854
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,520
this one does a lot of setup
compared to some of the other

855
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,200
ones like this one.
Really this one is I feel like

856
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,120
it's the longest.
It really takes its time with

857
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,200
this one, but at the same time,
I don't like the way that it's

858
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,200
like kind of split like cuz you
know, traditionally it's like we

859
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,120
see the, the premonition, but
then we see how it actually

860
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,920
happens.
Like, you know, followed up.

861
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,440
We don't get to see that until a
little bit later on.

862
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,760
So I, I don't really love that
about this one.

863
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,800
And again, just talking about
like the individual moments in

864
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,040
there just don't really kind of
hit because a lot of it is just

865
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,000
people falling and it's like,
well, yeah, like you fall from a

866
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,240
a high place, people die.
Like, yeah, that makes sense.

867
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,800
I don't know.
So it's like the the individual

868
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,960
moments don't quite do it for me
either.

869
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,000
And then like you said, the the
blending of the CGI is just a

870
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,200
really not great.
And it kind of doesn't do as

871
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,200
well for like kind of setting
the the tone for the rest of the

872
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,240
film going forward.
So yeah, I have this one pretty

873
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:27,360
low on on my list.
It got some noticeable notable

874
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,040
audience like claps like the
fact it starts raining bodies

875
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,200
and you have like your valet
parkers like what the fuck and

876
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,240
just take off.
And then at the end I get with

877
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:44,000
the kid who kind of kick starts
everything getting smushed by

878
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,320
the piano like the audience
broke into applause like so

879
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,800
that's the mark of a good scene.
One thing to note though, he

880
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,640
never throws the penny so
because she like stops him from

881
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,280
doing it and takes it away from
him and we never see him like

882
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,920
just take another one out and
throw that penny.

883
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,320
So technically, this never
should have actually happened

884
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,520
because that is the thing that,
you know, was supposed to kick

885
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,360
start everything.
And I call bullshit and want my

886
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,080
$12.00 for my ticket back.
All right, what is our number

887
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,840
one film?
This was a surprise, but what is

888
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,080
#1?
Number one of the final

889
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,720
Destination franchise as by the
pod and Pendulum crew is Final

890
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:35,880
Destination 5 here at the top.
I've always been a ride or die

891
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,560
for this movie.
I love I, I, I still remember

892
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,480
watching this one in theaters,
like the, the crowd just went

893
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,520
crazy at the end, like I've
never seen like, because this

894
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,480
was so, you know, early on where
it's like, you know, it wouldn't

895
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,480
have been ruined by social media
and stuff like that.

896
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,280
And so just the, the, the fact
of the, the way that this movie

897
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,960
pulls off being the secret
prequel gives it so much credit

898
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,520
to begin with.
Y'all know, long time listeners

899
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,720
of the show.
I'm always, I always ride for

900
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:13,840
the prequels and, but even aside
from the, the surprise prequel

901
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,080
ending, this is a really great
movie.

902
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,920
Like it like I think this one,
the, the, the, the like the, the

903
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,800
coworkers kind of relationship
is a different dynamic.

904
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,800
It's like, OK, like you like
some of these people, but you

905
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,520
also don't like some of these
people.

906
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:31,800
Certain people have connections
and things like that.

907
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,960
So I think the group dynamic is
interesting.

908
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:39,960
Again, the the suspension bridge
bus opening is very strong, very

909
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,320
solid.
I think this has a a very

910
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,920
entertaining cast as well and
also gives us a really

911
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,920
interesting aspect to add in a
human antagonist as well as like

912
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,920
introducing the idea of like,
oh, so if you kill somebody

913
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,520
else, you take their time and
how that would play out.

914
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,240
I think that I think that works
really well.

915
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,760
It has two of my favorite kills
of the franchise, but I think I

916
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,720
think it has what I would say is
agreed upon, possibly by by the

917
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:17,040
Internet as the best kill of the
entire franchise.

918
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:23,120
The the gymnastics set piece.
I I think it truly is a like as

919
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,080
a that is a work of art, like
the the the tension, the setup,

920
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,560
all the little moments the
follow, like the way it plays

921
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,480
out like.
I mean, that is such a

922
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,200
phenomenal scene.
And I also I love the lasik

923
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,480
scene as well.
I think that's a really

924
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,400
underrated good one.
PJ Byrne getting it at the

925
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,200
acupuncture place, like that's a
really good one.

926
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,000
Like this has like some really
great, like just all across the

927
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,840
board really great kill set
pieces, while also again, like

928
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,160
hitting a really solid tone as
well as like doing some like

929
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,760
really good character work with
like, you know, this guy, he's

930
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,720
our main character.
Not only is he trying to save

931
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:06,320
everybody, he's also trying to
save his relationship.

932
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,640
You know, we can all relate to
that, you know, and him like

933
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,320
kind of dealing with these
different big life decisions and

934
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,240
how, you know, death that would
kind of intervenes in there.

935
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:20,080
So I really love Final
Destination Five.

936
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,920
I think it's fantastic.
And yeah, it is definitely the

937
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,880
top of my list.
Yeah, I wonder if seeing Final

938
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,960
Destination 5 for the first time
and not knowing the surprise at

939
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,720
the end of the movie was like
our equivalent of going to see

940
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:41,960
Psycho in 1960 and not
experiencing anything like that

941
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,080
before.
Like that.

942
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,440
Oh my God, you just killed the
heroin like midway through the

943
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,840
movie.
Because I was completely

944
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,960
unprepared for that angle at the
end of it where it's like, hey,

945
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,480
we've just done a loop on itself
and you're back on the plane

946
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,240
from the first. 1 And it's like
you go back, they put clues in

947
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:02,880
there too.
It's just like it wasn't on

948
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,200
anybodies brain even that they
were going to do that and it

949
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,960
just how well it works.
Yeah.

950
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,760
And it comes out at a time
where, you know, the iPhone

951
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,760
isn't so ubiquitous that you're
like, oh, I would have known

952
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,960
because everybody was on, like,
flip phones and not iPhones.

953
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,840
And, like, the fashion from the
first movie to this one hadn't

954
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,280
really changed all that much.
Like the vernacular, the style,

955
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,400
pop culture, There's not a huge
gap in that first decade.

956
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,280
So it all worked.
It's called.

957
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,920
They didn't have to cheat in
order to make it work.

958
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,760
Basically like there's no cheat
to make it sort of fit in and

959
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,240
like I just I remember seeing
that inaudibly gasping in the

960
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,480
theater when I saw that because
I was completely unprepared for

961
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,480
it.
And it's AI think it benefits as

962
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:57,560
well from the poor reception of
for because it felt like more of

963
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,800
a return to form.
Like the effects are better, the

964
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,960
writing is better, the
individual kills are better, and

965
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,480
you like 3.
When you're rooting for Mary,

966
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,280
Elizabeth, Winstead and Wendy,
you are rooting for these

967
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,160
characters.
Like, you want to see them get

968
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,080
through and make it.
And that's what makes the twist

969
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,560
at the end all the better
because, like, oh, what a

970
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,560
stomach punch that is to
realize.

971
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,200
Like, they've gotten through,
they've made it, and now you're

972
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,560
right back at the beginning of
everything.

973
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Like time is a flat circle.
I thought that was a really

974
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,320
inventive and like, brilliant
way to kind of make the series

975
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,800
come full circle and end it
there.

976
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,600
Like what a button for the whole
franchise.

977
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,960
And then, you know, it's not for
almost 15 years that we see a

978
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,080
new entry, like enough time has
passed or it's like, OK, now we

979
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,000
can kind of pick things up like
those first five films on their

980
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,280
own.
What a way to kind of go out.

981
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:06,400
Yeah like again, like it's one
of horror's greatest apology

982
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,520
letters.
Like you said, as far as like

983
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,440
oh, sorry, we fucked up No, this
isn't the last one we're good.

984
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,760
We'll do another one really
interesting and you know, cuz

985
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,440
the final destination, you know,
people behind it like they, they

986
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,360
care about the the fans like
they, you know, and, and I, I

987
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,560
very much appreciate that
interesting.

988
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,400
I believe it like 4 is terrible
of these.

989
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Yeah, then they were just like,
hey, we we know we're, we know

990
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,280
we're better than that here.
Let's give it.

991
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,000
Let's give you guys something
proper.

992
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,720
The interesting, the writer on
this, Eric Heiser, very

993
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:43,400
interesting filmography.
He wrote on the The Thing 2011

994
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,640
prequel as well as the 2010
Nightmare on Elm Street, but

995
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,840
also Lights Out, Bird Box and
then Academy nominated for

996
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,560
Arrival.
Very interesting filmographer,

997
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,120
this Eric Heiser.
Yeah, overall, bit of a little

998
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,840
bit hit or miss there.
I mean, I'm on the record.

999
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,400
The Elm St. remake is really the
only bad move in that whole

1000
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,280
franchise.
Some interesting ideas here or

1001
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:17,560
there, but overall like I just I
just don't truck with it.

1002
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,440
All right my friend, you want to
do think pretty obvious what our

1003
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:30,440
number one overall set piece,
almost unanimous 35 points 5.83.

1004
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,600
I think you had this one a
little lower.

1005
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,680
You were the only one that
didn't have it at #1 but why

1006
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,520
don't you go ahead and introduce
the top opening set piece?

1007
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,760
No, I still had this one.
I had this one at #1.

1008
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,720
Someone didn't my.
Yeah, yeah, somebody, yeah,

1009
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,560
somebody was bold enough to put
this on them too, but it

1010
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,320
actually was not me.
I have this at #1 the the

1011
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,600
Highway to Hell sequence from
Final Destination to again.

1012
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,360
If there's anything that is
mostly agreed upon in this

1013
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,240
franchise, it is that this is
the the best of the opening set

1014
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,160
pieces.
Again, because mainly because

1015
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:14,160
this is like mostly practical, a
lot of this going on just as far

1016
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,720
as mechanical mayhem goes in any
kind of film, this is fantastic.

1017
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,400
Once again, just like filled
with really great individual

1018
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,240
moments that are set up really
well.

1019
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,400
This is also a lengthier one as
well, but obviously I think just

1020
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,920
this one again, the, the context
and you know what the, the

1021
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,320
impact it's had, you know, on
just people in general, like

1022
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,720
people, you know, like will you,
I, I see people do it on the on

1023
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,360
on the highway all the time.
If somebody's behind a, a truck

1024
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,240
full of logs, they will move out
from behind that truck, you

1025
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,160
know, like this is, you know, so
ingrained in the cultural

1026
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,320
zeitgeist.
But then now just the way that

1027
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,520
people approach their everyday
life, you know, this movie has

1028
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,600
an impact on that.
So like just for that alone, you

1029
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,200
know, you know, kind of puts
this a little bit a cut above

1030
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,680
the rest.
But then on top of that, it's

1031
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,120
just a very, really well
choreographed scene as far as

1032
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,280
like stunts go and things like
that, the explosions and

1033
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,480
everything.
Lots of just really, really

1034
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,280
great moments.
The fucking motorcycle, homie.

1035
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,160
That stunt is crazy.
I mean, there's some really just

1036
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,000
a fantastic stunt work going on,
so kudos to everyone involved in

1037
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,600
it.
That was the thing that jumps

1038
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,960
out.
Watching it now and there's been

1039
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,000
more and more.
I think it's next year, going to

1040
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,440
be the first year that like
stuntmen are recognized at the

1041
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,520
Oscars.
Like feel like I've heard that

1042
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,280
is finally going to go through.
Like, so it's not going to be on

1043
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:48,680
this next ceremony, but the one
after that I believe is when it

1044
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,640
is finally a thing.
Yes, way, way long overdue.

1045
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,400
OK.
There is just some incredible

1046
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,800
practical effects work that is
going on here.

1047
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:04,240
And this is really where like
the Rube Goldberg esque aspect

1048
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,320
of these films come into play.
Like the first film, you know,

1049
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,600
the plane rips apart and it's a
really horrific plane crash.

1050
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,760
But this one, there are so many
little pieces from like a piece

1051
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,360
of like the weed going off and
catching things, you know,

1052
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,120
having the windshield catch a
flame at that point.

1053
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,200
So many little things have to go
wrong.

1054
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,680
The log going through the cops
skull at that point in a great

1055
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,760
in a great sequence.
And to your point, yeah, if I

1056
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,280
see a giant fucking truck with
logs on the back of it, like I'm

1057
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,560
moving over and I'm slowing down
and I'm getting as far away from

1058
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,080
it as I possibly can, I don't
care.

1059
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,160
And they know what they had with
it 'cause they keep, you know,

1060
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,760
in the new movie, they brought
back little, little call outs to

1061
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,000
it and the third act as well.
So it's just like shows like,

1062
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,560
oh, this is what we're really
capable of.

1063
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,200
And then to have like her
friends get killed at the end of

1064
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,480
it like that was unexpected.
And like I mentioned to like the

1065
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,760
fact that this this scene rates
this movie a lot higher than I

1066
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,600
think people should also is like
the strength of this, like it

1067
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,800
was again, like this this one
scene is really what kind of

1068
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,680
puts this film pretty high up in
people's rankings.

1069
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,040
Yeah.
Yeah, I was surprised to see the

1070
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,720
second one ranked as low as it
is overall.

1071
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,760
I also like the dead that the
kid running through the pigeons

1072
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,920
and then getting smashed.
Like, fuck that kid.

1073
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:47,600
All right, we did it.
We'll we'll, we'll be back into

1074
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,320
this franchise in a couple of
years.

1075
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,200
I'd assume they I feel like
we're definitely get another one

1076
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,160
again.
Go to the go.

1077
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,960
Let's hit the seas, people.
Let's get in the water for the

1078
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:02,280
next Final Destination 7.
Be a lot of fun.

1079
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,720
I think that would be so fun.
So who knows where we'll be

1080
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,280
going.
But but yeah, I love this

1081
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,520
franchise.
It's one of the greatest

1082
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,880
premises to ever be came up with
in a horror in the horror genre

1083
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,960
as far as this this century goes
as well.

1084
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,360
But like, yeah, this franchise
again, why aren't we in the

1085
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,080
double digits yet?
You know, you can this this

1086
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:32,160
franchise, the the formula is so
down and, you know, solid.

1087
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,280
You know that the foundation of
this franchise is so solid that

1088
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,120
like, you can literally just do
unlimited amounts.

1089
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,680
So I hope so.
OK with it taking its time, I'm

1090
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:46,800
OK with having six right now and
give us another one in a couple

1091
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,400
years.
You know, I like the fact that

1092
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,520
we're not churning these out.
Oh, yeah, no, I, I do appreciate

1093
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,760
that.
Like that they made it.

1094
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,240
They did say that they're like,
hey, like these take some time,

1095
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,960
like we're not gonna like try to
push this out.

1096
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,800
And I was like, hey, I
appreciate that, guys.

1097
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:00,560
Thanks.
Thank you.

1098
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,440
I think one of the producers
like said like, look, this isn't

1099
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,200
a Blum House movie where we can
have like a very low budget and

1100
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,680
small cast in a single location.
Like, you know, we do have to

1101
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,960
invest like a little bit of time
and energy and resources into

1102
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,040
them.
And like we said last time, like

1103
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,600
they are all like minimum 3 1/2
times they make their budget

1104
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,280
back.
Like they all make crazy money.

1105
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,800
You think about those first four
or five movies like in the

1106
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,840
heyday of of physical media,
like that's how I watched the

1107
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:38,240
first movie was like buying the
special edition disc on New Line

1108
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,760
and having it packed with
features and thinking about I

1109
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,520
think you can buy like the first
five movies for like 10 to 15

1110
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,840
bucks on Blu-ray at this point.
And they're all packed to the

1111
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,920
gills.
But you know, not only do they

1112
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,760
make bank in theaters, but I bet
they made double that just in

1113
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,320
like home video sales to back in
the day for like the rewatch

1114
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,160
factor alone.
Oh yeah, then the new box set is

1115
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:08,200
already getting out for
pre-order because they are able

1116
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,240
to just say yeah, kind of keep
redoing that.

1117
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,400
So yeah, physical media Kings
dominates the box office.

1118
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,800
A found destination.
Again, very strong franchise.

1119
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,400
Yeah, we'll be back with more.
Well, Speaking of more, Devon,

1120
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,440
what is going on with you in
both of your shows right now?

1121
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,920
Over on Spectre Cinema Club,
celebrating Pride Month, we

1122
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,440
covering the Psycho Series,
which I know we're going to be

1123
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,520
doing here on Pond Pendulum as
well.

1124
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,560
And so that's been that's been a
lot of fun.

1125
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,560
I'm intrigued to see how
everybody else appreciates the

1126
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,840
sequels.
And over on Tainted Love, we did

1127
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,360
an episode on Tucker and Dale
versus Evil as well as Ravenous

1128
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:57,520
just dropped and we'll be doing
a movie an episode on the the

1129
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,640
part Chan Wook film thirst if
you want to get ahead on that.

1130
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,840
So at Spectre Cinema, new
episodes every Tuesday, tainted

1131
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,280
love new episodes every
Wednesday at tainted love pod.

1132
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,760
And you can find me at all
places at Under Score,

1133
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,480
Daddydisco on Letterbox, Blue
Sky, and Instagram.

1134
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,360
Yeah, we had the rare moment of
agreement.

1135
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,760
I was listening to your episode
on Psycho and you're like, it's

1136
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:28,680
good, it's good.
And I'm a little bit stronger on

1137
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,040
it.
Like it's, I think it's an

1138
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,800
excellent film.
But to me, it's might.

1139
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,920
It's probably not in Hitchcock's
top five.

1140
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,880
No, definitely not.
Like they ranked at #1 I'm like,

1141
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:43,440
have you seen Rear Window and
Vertigo And like North by

1142
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,520
Northwest?
Like we wouldn't have people

1143
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,560
talking about like the influence
of Psycho.

1144
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,280
I don't think we get like, James
Bond movies if it's not for

1145
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:56,360
North by Northwest, which is so
much fun and just like an

1146
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,960
incredible, incredible, yeah.
Psycho movie.

1147
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:03,400
Solid movie it is.
It truly is solid movie.

1148
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,600
But he's done.
He has much better.

1149
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:12,160
Yeah, my spoiler hot take on
Psycho is it kind of falls apart

1150
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,800
after the shower scene.
Like once that is done, there's

1151
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,880
a lot of.
Oh, the second-half is

1152
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,439
significantly.
Significantly at a downgrade

1153
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,960
from the first.
So that's my hot cycle.

1154
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,439
Go go go watch Strangers on a
Train, people.

1155
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,600
That's my Hitchcock.
That's, that's, that's my

1156
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,840
Topper.
I love that one.

1157
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,520
So go go watch that instead.
Of saboteur.

1158
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,520
That's either saboteur or
sabotage.

1159
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:41,200
It's basically Hitchcock
remaking his own 39 steps, but

1160
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,600
for American audiences.
And it's so much fucking fun.

1161
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,720
Like, it is, if not my top
Hitchcock, it's like my sneaky

1162
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,479
top five pick that is like a lot
of fun.

1163
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:56,240
It's him redoing the 39 steps,
which he remakes a lot of his

1164
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,200
own work over the course of his
career.

1165
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,880
Yeah.
I can also listen to my good

1166
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,560
friend Rebecca, her Alfred
Hitchcock podcast, which my

1167
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,359
brain is not working right now.
I should probably put the name

1168
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:16,600
of it in the show.
Anyway, you can find us

1169
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,479
everywhere you get your podcast.
As we mentioned earlier, you can

1170
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,720
find me at Mike under score.
Sorry, Mike's Noonian on Blue

1171
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,840
Ski Pod and Pendulum over on
Blue Sky.

1172
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,760
Same thing for Instagram for
both Mike Chump change for

1173
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,040
instagramandpatreon.com/pod in
the pendulum.

1174
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:38,080
If you would like to be a
financial contributor to the

1175
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,880
show and get a ton of bonus
content.

1176
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,120
So I think we're going to have a
little break between this

1177
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,720
episode and kicking off our next
franchise.

1178
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,680
We have a few episodes in the
can right now, which is good for

1179
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,120
us.
That's rare that we are able to

1180
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,200
do that.
And we might do like a little

1181
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:01,480
Patreon sampler for our next
episode to entice people.

1182
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,400
But after that, my friends, I
proclaim this the Summer of

1183
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:12,160
George, we are going to be doing
all of the George Romero zombie

1184
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,360
films.
Night of the Living Dead, Dawn

1185
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:19,240
of the Dead, Day of the Dead,
Land of the Dead, Survive, Diary

1186
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,160
of the Dead, Survival of the
Dead.

1187
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,320
Not since Star Wars have there
been like 2 drastically

1188
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,960
different takes or different
levels of quality in franchise

1189
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,960
Trilogy's my friend.
So we are going to be doing all

1190
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,840
the Romero films for the rest of
the summer, as well as Tom

1191
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,760
Zavini's 1990 remake of Night of
the Living Dead and Zack

1192
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:49,560
Snyder's 2004 Dawn of the Dead.
So really excited to cover all

1193
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,760
eight of these movies, but my
Lord, it's going to be an

1194
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,320
undertaking.
Like the time for the light,

1195
01:10:55,320 --> 01:11:01,400
fluffy, easy to do, no notes
episodes like going out the

1196
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,520
window for the next month or so,
aren't they?

1197
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,800
Oh yeah, I mean, we were.
Yeah, well, had had our fun time

1198
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,680
in the woods, had a silly goose
time just abandoning all

1199
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,600
background research for the
Wishmaster series.

1200
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,040
So yeah, we're we're getting
back on our academic shit, guys.

1201
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,280
Yep.
Should be a good time.

1202
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,520
So we have all hands on deck for
those episodes, which is going

1203
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,560
to be a lot of fun.
I don't know if any of us are

1204
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,120
huge zombie people, which is
kind of going to be interesting.

1205
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,440
We may get some flung headsets
from listeners with some of our

1206
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:41,720
takes, like I can imagine Devon
will be spending some fire.

1207
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:48,800
I might be doing some sacrilege.
So we'll see how it goes as we

1208
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,160
cover the Living Dead series.
Devon, always a pleasure.

1209
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,360
Alrighty guys, it's going to be,
it's going to be hot.

1210
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,840
It's going to be gross.
And yeah, don't get big guys,

1211
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,160
put some sunscreen on.
It's about to get hot.

1212
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,040
All right.
Take care, everybody.