WISHMASTER 3: BEYOND THE GATES OF HELL

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Hey folks, Mike here.
So super quick before we begin

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this week's show, I have to
issue quick apology.

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In EMEA culpa and the six plus
years of doing the show, this

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hasn't happened where both the
master tracks that we recorded

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will.
We record each track

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individually through our
Internet software and the backup

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track I do on my local drive.
Both of them were corrupted and

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I could not upload either of
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Luckily we caught the recording
error fairly early on and I

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switched laptops and thought we
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backup, but that wasn't the
case.

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That's really never happened
before, but what can you do?

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So all that's missing is about
the 1st 5 or 6 minutes of the

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show, which if you listen to us,
no, that's just me kind of

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rambling on a bit like I do
right now.

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So what you're going to hear
today is Ari and I mid

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conversation on Witch Master
Three.

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Oh boy.
I bet everyone is super excited

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to dive into this masterpiece.
But again, my apologies.

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Hopefully that won't happen
again for whatever reason, like

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the Witch Master series and
recording, it has been filled

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with recording snafus.
Just a lot of little things.

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So glad to leave this series
behind.

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Onward and upward.
Thanks everyone and on with the

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show.
It is it is a technically is in

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my my era.
You know, I really felt 2

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influences on this movie.
You can really feel the Scream

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influence I think because we've
got a group of friends in

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college and it's like the 2
girls are really close friends

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and their boyfriends are kind of
doofy and they don't really

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trust their boyfriends.
And they're treating Tapioca,

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the main character.
They're, they're like treating

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her like she's crazy and that
it's all her family trauma

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coming to get her.
And, and that's very much how

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Sydney is treated by Billy and
Scream.

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And so I was like, OK, OK, this
one's influenced by Scream.

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I can get that.
I also really felt that this was

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influenced by Buffy.
I feel like this so the Jinns

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look throughout the franchise is
a good looking monster.

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He's he's a good looking
monster.

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And in this one, I just felt
like it still looks good, but it

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reminded me a lot of like the
demons that we'd see monster of

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the week style on Buffy.
And we've got a blonde woman

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who's forced to kick ass even
though she doesn't really want

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to.
She's working with an Angel,

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which we'll get into because
what the hell, But we've got her

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going around kicking ass with a
sword with an Angel to try to

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find a way to outsmart this
demon.

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It reminded me of, oh, that that
story arc on Buffy where they're

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like, no weapon forged can kill
this thing.

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And was he what?
I can't remember what the name

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of that demon was.
The master.

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Not not the master and not the
mayor.

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Maybe that was the judge.
The whatever story arc was where

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they were, they decide that they
can kill him with a really big

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gun.
Because I really felt that

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influence on this movie and so I
found that enjoyable too.

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That it has the feel of like
that CWUPN kind of like like

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Xena Warrior Princess Hercules
as well type of thing.

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Where like the bee special
effects are definitely supposed

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to be part of the charm of the
movie.

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The fact that it looks so tacky
overall like and that is

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definitely the case here.
It's really driving me crazy now

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that I can't think of who.
And I want to say the character

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was played by like Brian
Williams.

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Like he's a pretty big you're
The X-Files.

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Like he was in The X-Files as
well for a few.

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He was like a big almost looks
like Swash.

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Like, you know, if he needed a
stunt tumble for Schwarzenegger,

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like he could step in and be
that stunt double.

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But yeah, he was definitely like
a big in the 90s for a little

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while.
Like you need a big hulking guy

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that could act a little bit as
well, like that guy from Buffy.

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But he's not in this movie.
So I guess like, I don't want to

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get too far be it from us to go.
Down to go on a tangent.

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US never wouldn't do it.
Well, on that note, like I don't

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like this is the we don't have
any notes for this one.

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I'm like, I can't even be like
this movie made such an impact

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that like I'm like, I just don't
feel like writing notes for it

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because when you look up like
the behind the scenes production

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that we always do, it's like the
one production note and it was

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like was filmed back-to-back
with Witch Master 4.

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Yes, and the director, Criss
Angel, but not that Criss Angel.

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Not that Criss Angel.
Not the mind freak,

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unfortunately.
Which?

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What do you think Witch master
for directed by mind freak Criss

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Angel would look like a better
or worse.

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I don't know.
I didn't see a Criss Angel show

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when I was in Vegas one time and
it was pretty entertaining.

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So OK, maybe it would be good.
He, he wasn't like one of those

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pickup artist people too, was
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Like, that's someone different
than I'm thinking.

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Like Criss Angel is just like
David Copperfield, but for like

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millennials.
Yeah, he just did like, magic

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show, like showy magic tricks
and things.

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Yeah.
Got it.

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That's it.
So yes, I will say the the lead

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from this AJ Cook like tapioca,
Diane.

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Diana.
Right.

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She would actually.
Mythology.

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That's right, yeah.
She would go on to have like a

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pretty solid career like couple
years after this.

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She's Kimberly Corman in final
destination 2.

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Yep, which, to be honest, some I
last weekend, Memorial Day

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weekend, I rewatched the first
three final destinations and

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then went to the theaters again
to see bloodlines because we're

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going to do a ranking episode.
Yes ahead of and you know I'm

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nothing if not like I I want to
make sure that I have I'm a high

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information voter Arielle yeah,
I have all the I could not tell

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that was her in like.
She looks different.

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Yeah, yeah.
And like it made no, like there

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was never a moment when I'm
like, oh, she's in that movie

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that we're covering next week.
Like she's that's funny.

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She's the lead in that.
And then she would go on to like

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appear in like 350 episodes of
like one of the CS is it's one

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of the leads.
Excuse me.

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So yeah, she's gone on to have
like a pretty solid career like

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AJ Cook.
But that's really it.

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Like this is, I'll tell you
right now, listeners, like this

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is going to be one of the
shorter episodes we do.

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Like if we hit an hour on this
episode, I am it'll.

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Be because we tangentes, you
know.

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OK, so I'm going to talk about a
couple things that don't really

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make sense to me.
OK.

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And so OK, I think.
Pertaining to the movie or.

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Just in general, yeah,
pertaining to the movie.

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So we, we cover franchises,
right?

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That's our key.
And so, right, just confirming,

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we often see franchises run into
this problem of how do you not

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make the same movie over and
over again?

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Like how do you keep it
different enough but in the same

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world?
These guys don't seem to have

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that problem.
They're not thinking.

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About that, no, they're not too
worried.

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And honestly, like with the
world we've set up with the Gin,

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it's hard not to make the same
formula again where somebody

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accidentally lets it out and
then they have to find the right

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wish or the right move to like,
wish him back away.

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But, and so I'm like, OK, I get
that we could watch different

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versions of that over and over
again, but the lore doesn't

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really seem to hold throughout.
Like, what counts as a wish

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changes in each movie.
What the Jin's goal is seems to

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change in each movie.
And that's, you know, that's OK.

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Like, this is a not, you know,
literature.

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But it's just kind of hard to
get my hooks in because I'm kind

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of like, I don't know what
you're doing.

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And at the beginning of this
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So at the end of two, he's
thwarted trying to get all the

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souls in Vegas because he needs
1000 souls.

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He doesn't even need 1000 souls.
It doesn't seem like it because

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like, it just seems like he
would like them, right?

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Do you know what I mean?
He's.

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He's a collector.
He's he has set a goal for

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himself.
It's like I try to get 10,000

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steps a day in.
Right, Jin tries to get 1000

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souls.
Yeah, that's what it seems like.

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I don't think it's like.
It's an arbitrary number like.

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He doesn't.
Necessarily need like it's he

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doesn't need 1000 souls in order
to achieve his plan.

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Let's put it this way like maybe
it it like powers him up.

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It's like or do you play video?
Not as much.

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OK, Did you used to play video
games?

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I'm like not very good at them,
but I am familiar.

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So do you know how, like, you'll
play like an open world, like a

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Zelda role-playing game?
Yeah.

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And they have all the side
quests or it's like you have to

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find 400 gold or like 400 rubies
and they're scattered all

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throughout Hyrule and just
probably not part of, I haven't

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played Zeldrin forever.
But like it's like one of those

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things where like you get a
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you'll beat the main quest, but
then keep playing the game

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because you want to.
Like like Spider Man is like one

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of those where it's like I've
beaten the main game, but

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there's like 100 locations in
New York that you can

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photograph.
And then you get a trophy saying

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achievement unlocked.
That's what it feels like.

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The collecting 1000 souls is for
the Gin.

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Yes.
So I don't understand why like

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when he wakes up at the
beginning of three, wouldn't he

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just go straight back to Vegas?
Like that plan was working

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pretty good.
Yeah.

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But he does.
Posit this is not the same gin.

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Yeah, OK.
You think this is a different

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gin?
I think it's a different.

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Gin, OK, I can get on board with
that.

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Not just because it's a
different actor.

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Like that's the obvious, yeah,
easy answer.

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But I would go so far as to say
that, like, all of the jinns

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have the same primary goal.
Like, we want to unleash hell on

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Earth.
Yeah, we want to do that by

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granting like 3 wishes to one
person.

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And once we do that, all the
jinn come.

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So all of them have medicine.
They're all on a team working

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towards the same goal.
But like every team, they might

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have like different strengths
and weaknesses and ways of

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getting there.
I would almost pause it.

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This is almost like a baby gin
or a much younger Gin.

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Because you see early on, like
when the original professor

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comes in, like when he comes
into the fray and he sees the

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gin and gin form, the professor
is like, I want like the two

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most beautiful women in the
world to come in right now and

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fall in love with me.
And they come in in the first

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couple movies.
Like when you would make that

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way when someone would make the
wish, the gin would be very

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playful in terms of like how
that what should be granted.

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Like in Part 2.
He's like, I want my lawyer to

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go fuck himself.
He's like, OK, well, he

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literally goes fucking fucks
himself.

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Yeah.
When Kane hotter is like, I

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would love to see you try to go
right through me.

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And he turns him into this like
pane of glass that he can easily

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walk through.
Like the gin is really clever

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and the gin is really playful.
He's got a sense of humor.

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He's like the house with when
the pit boss in like the Don

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Rickles character of casino,
except in Wishmaster 2 when he's

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like, Oh yeah, the house wants
the people to win.

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It's like, oh, that's what you
wish.

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Absolutely.
The house and you'll hear like

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Wishmaster 2, I think set the
legal precedent for Citizens

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United, which is a, which is a
Supreme Court decision that is

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like rot, tremendous destruction
upon the United States.

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Because my theory is this like
the house is, it's the building,

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it's the casino.
The house is not like a.

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It's not a corporal entity.
Right, the House has an idea.

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Exactly.
Yeah, it can't.

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It's like an LLC.
It can't actually wish anything.

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If you said the board of
directors wishes that everybody

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is now you're cooking, well
you're saying the House wins.

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So my theory is like when
Citizens United was being

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argued, you could enter
Wishmaster 2 into legal

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proceedings and say because the
House is able to grant A wish or

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make a wish at the Jinn, then
had to grant.

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It is now like we have legal
precedent.

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And therefore, like Mitt Romney
once said, corporations are

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people too, right?
And now ICE is coming for your

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mother's.
I mean, that's just the world we

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live in now and.
You know, it's all connected.

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It's all connected and pretty
soon we're going to have dogs

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making wishes and the gin's
going to grant those.

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Everything about dogs later
we'll talk about I'll tell you

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about the existential crisis
that covering this series has

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sparked to me.
But anyway, when the when this

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gin grants wishes, they they're
not really playful and they're

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not really, you know, the two
women come in and they fall in

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love with him and then they eat
him.

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And it's like, that's not really
a play on anything.

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It's just like you created
beautiful zombies that eat

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people.
Yeah, there's no pun this this

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movie has the sex like this is
the entry in the franchise that

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gets its tits out.
And that was the primary purpose

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of that wish.
There was no there.

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There was no word play for the
Jin to laugh at for himself.

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Yeah, yeah, the first film had a
ton of smoking.

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Like that was a device in the
first film.

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The second film had like
gambling, yes ever in the

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casino.
This one is like tits out,

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titties out.
Like you said, you know, whip

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out Wednesday.
That would have been a thing in

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2001.
Maybe.

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Chris Angel, the director, was a
huge Opie, Opie and Anthony fan.

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Maybe.
He was like I really like Whip

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out Wednesdays and Oh my God I
had not thought of that

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literally in 30 and I was never
an Opie Anthony fan.

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Like the shit.
And yet I can't remember the

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name of the judge who was a
Puffy character.

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A show that I probably watched
more than any show ever and I

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that I can't remember.
Like that is not good.

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There's a new book out about how
1999 and its trash culture is

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the turning point in American
history.

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And it's like written as a
series.

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I need to buy this.
And it's like.

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Sounds like my damn.
Peak trash culture.

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Yeah, I love trash.
So, and it's like how things

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have kind of gone downhill since
then.

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I'm really fascinated by the
arguments.

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It was like Woodstock 99, Jerry
Springer's it's height, the

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height of the Attitude Era and
WWE, which you know, Steve

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Austin's my favorite wrestler of
all time.

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Most of the Attitude Era does
not hold.

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Like when you go back and
rewatch it, you're like, this is

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bad.
This is really, really bad.

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Yeah, it had some fun stuff, but
it's like there's a reason we

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left some of that in the past.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.
So, yeah, I would argue this is

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not the same jinn and that he's
even like a much more novice.

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And that, like the Jinn that was
played by Andy Divov in the

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first two films, was like higher
up in the pecking order or

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seniority in like kind of knew
what he was doing.

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Here's I like that.
Yeah, here's my question for

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you.
If you're the Jinn and you need

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someone to grant to ask 3 wishes
in order for you to unleash hell

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on earth and have all your gin
buddies come, do you think the

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gin who somehow knew that
Houdini escaped from this thing

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in 2 minutes and 12 seconds?
Yeah.

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Have never heard the expression
that every grandmother knows.

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Like you catch more flies with
honey than vinegar.

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Right.
Because why would you be an

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asshole about your wishes if you
need to grant three of them to

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come on Earth?
Is it Jin like is it a rule

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where he you can't just grant A
wish in the spirit that it's

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given?
Because the best way to get

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someone to grant 3 risks is
would be to just just grant them

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like, and then and then you got
it and then you can move on.

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But like if they have to inject
some sort of monkey's paw

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business every time, it's going
to be harder to get people on

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board.
Jin I don't.

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Think it is.
It's a PR team.

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Gin is just.
They're just assholes.

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I think that might be true.
And it goes above and beyond

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like, well, of course they're
assholes.

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Like they wanna like come on to
earth and like rule over

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everybody.
It's like, yes, but that's like,

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we want power.
This is just more like your

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garden variety reply guy on the
Internet type of asshole.

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The well, actually person, the
person who in the comments

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section will be like, it's
actually you, YOU apostrophe RE

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as opposed to YOUR, which I'll,
I'll admit I've been guilty of

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that sometimes.
So do you know what I mean?

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I do I, I think also of that old
like fable of the scorpion and

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the frog where the scorpion
kills the frog even though it

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kills him as well.
You know what I'm talking about

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this one.
Yeah, Yeah.

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I'm like, maybe the gin just
can't help himself and it's just

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his nature that he must fuck
around and make his own life

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harder.
And the professor's fascinating

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because he's just such a weak
character.

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Oh yeah.
What did you think he was?

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Classroom management skills.
Not good.

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Like, no, I don't.
Oh, watching college classrooms

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in movies is always hilarious to
me because I'm just like,

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there's there's no way.
And he's like way too interested

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in a student.
And she, I don't know if she was

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interested in him or not.
It was sort of unclear, but

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yeah, inappropriate.
You think Arlene?

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Diana.
Yeah.

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OK.
I don't know.

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I don't know.
Everybody else wanted to get

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with the professor and like
become his TA, which I'm like,

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why are you all fighting for
this TA position?

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I was ATA and it doesn't affect
my life in any way now.

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Don't do that work.
It's just free work that you're

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doing.
It's.

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An beats like below an unpaid
internship.

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Oh yeah, it's like.
With the unpaid internship, at

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least you might get taken on by
the company you're working for.

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Yeah, right.
It like you said, a different

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era era when it seemed like your
professor would just hit on the

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TA and people would narry Batty.
And I like the problem with it

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in 2001 wasn't like, hey, this
guy is like 1520 years her

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senior.
There is like a ridiculous power

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dynamic, right?
And this tenured professor?

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And his TA.
And his TA, yeah.

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And also it was more like, oh,
she already has a boyfriend.

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Like, what's going on here?
Like, that's what you were

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supposed to be.
I don't know.

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I don't feel like she was into
him because he, you know, like,

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invites her to dinner and it's
like, we should get like, great

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wine and champagne.
And she's like, no, I want to go

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snuggle up with my mediocre
boyfriend.

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Who she?
Needs to talk to him.

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See, I saw that in your notes
and I thought you meant that

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about the other couple.
OK, I mean so.

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Tell me about You're not great
too.

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Tell me about why she needs to
dump him.

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What a wet noodle of a man.
I was just like, first of all,

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he doesn't support her career or
her goals at all.

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And he's like, you have to work,
why don't you spend time with

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me?
If a partner is saying that to

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you while you're trying to,
like, make your goals happen,

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that's not, there's a more
supportive way to say I'd like

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to spend more time together.
So #1 he's a wet noodle #2 he's

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completely dismissive of all her
concerns.

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I wrote down an inner a line
because I was like, this is the

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stupidest thing I've ever heard.
When she finds the professor's

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notebook and she's like,
something happens to him and I

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think I'm next.
She says there was a fresh drop

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of blood next to my name.
And her boyfriend goes, that

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could mean anything.
I'm like, what?

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No, probably not.
A drop of blood can't mean

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anything.
It could probably mean a few

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things.
He's just like the most

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dismissive, lame guy in the
world.

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And at the end, she's like, I do
love you.

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And I'm like, no, you need to
dump him.

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Do you?
Yeah, it's I felt like you,

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you're right.
She he's very dismissive,

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although, I mean, removing the
fact that it's a horror movie

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and we're like following the gin
and it's a monster.

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If if our respective partners
came up to us and said like,

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hey, I think that I'm being
stalked by millennial old genie

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that wants me to wants to grant
evil wishes so that all its

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brethren can come and unleash
hello in the world.

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I would probably do what he does
here, which is like gather my

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friends and say we need to check
them into like the campus

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psychiatrist and just make sure
they're OK.

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Like we need a Wellness check.
Help them get help and take

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their concern.
There's a way to say to a

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person, I believe you that you
are experiencing that you know,

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but he's just like, Nah, forget
about it and come hang out with

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me instead and then.
He goes, that's before this,

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that's.
Before, but then he's like, we

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have to get her checked in
somewhere.

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But then he doesn't do that.
And he just helps her do

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research.
Yeah.

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And I was like, you don't even
know what you're doing, dude.

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Well, they're in the same class
with one another too, and that's

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part of it.
So like, I don't know, that's

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probably not his major, but he
at least has some sort of

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interest in this subject.
Where he's.

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Like studying it.
So he could should be on board

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with that.
But I also like, you know, we

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don't really have any sort of
insight into their dynamic.

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Or maybe this is like the eighth
night in a row where she's like,

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I have to go work and he's like,
come on.

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And maybe the first seven times
he's like, hey, cool, I know you

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got a lot on your plate.
That's great.

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Do what you got to do.
You know, like I'll go grab a

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couple like discs from
Blockbuster and we'll snuggle up

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later on like I'll pick do some
take out.

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And by like night 8, he's like,
I don't think this woman is into

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me.
So I'm going to break out the

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big guns and tell her I love
her.

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Like that is like desperate.
You can see the flop sweat like

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coming off and she's like, I
would love a MC rib right now.

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Do you know, do you know when a
McDonald's are bringing those

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back?
It you know, the MC rib, you can

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never be sure because it just
has to do with the price of

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pork.
They bring it back when the

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price of pork is good, and
that's a hard thing to predict.

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And they're always like, this is
the last time we do the MC rib.

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Right.
Never, ever do it.

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You know what I I learned is
that McDonald's you can get a

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birthday cake.
I have heard that, yeah.

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Do we know anyone who's done it
for real?

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Because.
I wonder.

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If it's real, OK.
I've seen a video of it and it

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was done by like this.
Like seemingly nice, no need to

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lie dude, just like you pull in
you.

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I think it's 30 bucks.
So I don't think it's like this

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cheap.
You know, you get like a slice

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of cake.
It's like a full on.

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It's like a sheet sheet.
Birthday cake, Yeah.

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Listeners, can you comment below
on the episode please on Spotify

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and tell us if you have gotten a
cake from McDonald's because I

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really am interested in this.
It didn't look like they

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verified his birthday either, so
wasn't like something where you

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had to go in.
I guess you could say like, hey,

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it's for my kid or it's for my
wife or whatever.

449
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,920
You know anybody can buy a
birthday cake.

450
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,000
There's no law.
Yeah, You know, it's like, yeah,

451
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,160
you should be able because they
have birthday cake ice cream,

452
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,960
which is one of my favorite
flavors.

453
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,560
I love birthday cake flavors,
anything.

454
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,960
Yeah, Can you imagine if they
try to enforce?

455
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,800
And it is Trump's America, so
that's probably coming where

456
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,040
it's like, oh, you like birthday
cake flavored anything.

457
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,920
Well, you can now only order it
on your birthday.

458
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,120
Like that is the law.
Will that be will that be what

459
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:26,720
pushes this country into a riot?
I don't think you it will.

460
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,200
OK.
I don't think it will.

461
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,880
I mean if getting your parents
thrown off healthcare and

462
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,360
letting them like die poor in
the streets isn't enough then.

463
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,920
But maybe it's one of those
things where like, first they

464
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,360
came from my parents and I
didn't say anything, but then

465
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,200
they came from my birthday cake
and you can't take my birthday

466
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,720
cake.
And I never got birthday cake as

467
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,680
a kid because my parents sucked
and that's why I was OK with.

468
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,760
That maybe you'll you'll have
people posting profile pictures

469
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280
of them holding cake saying come
and take it.

470
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Yeah, I literally don't know
what it would take to have blood

471
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720
run in the streets at this
point.

472
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,480
I don't don't know what it would
be.

473
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,520
I honestly think it might have
to be if they sum because

474
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,480
there's always these whispers of
like banning things like

475
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,600
Pornhub.
And I'm not being facetious, I'm

476
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,200
thinking like something.
I do think that.

477
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:24,680
Some level of that might be you
would just see like young men 13

478
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,480
to 40 rise up en masse like
you've never seen before.

479
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,200
Yeah.
And it would be like that would

480
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,160
be the next Captain America
movie.

481
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,800
Like Steve Rogers gathering all
young men in order to like save

482
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840
Pornhub.
Like that literally would be

483
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320
what would get.
People that might be that might

484
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,280
be the.
Thing so can I tell you my

485
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,280
existential crisis that this
movie is this series is spark.

486
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Yes, I'm a little nervous, but
go for it.

487
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Couple of things.
I was texting with a good friend

488
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040
of mine yesterday.
Like she and I, like we've been

489
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,200
friends for like 30 something
years And it was like we, my

490
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,320
daughter and I weren't like a
like a little like a vintage

491
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,000
fair at BU.
And it's a really nice

492
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,680
afternoon, even though it was a
little bit drizzly.

493
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,280
And I was starting to think
we're covering this series of a

494
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,920
that the gin is like this
eternal creature.

495
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,840
We said this in the first first
film where like our guest John

496
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,000
was like, well, I would get I
would wish for something like I

497
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,800
want to live forever and then be
sent back to like the moment of

498
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,400
The Big Bang.
And right before the printing

499
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,000
press.
Before the printing press.

500
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Thank you if we ever do merch.
Yeah.

501
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,320
Thank God for the printing
press, But I'm like it.

502
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,360
I started to think, I'm 50, and
I'm like, you know, my friend

503
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,840
had texted, like, man, I can't
believe where the time is gone.

504
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,200
And I'm like, yeah.
And I sometimes do math in my

505
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920
head, like, what's left?
And it's a weird thought to

506
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,840
have, like, how many good years
are there?

507
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,480
And then I'm like, well, if
there's life after this or if

508
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000
there's something at which I do
think there is, there's

509
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760
something after this, I'm like,
would that get boring?

510
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,200
Yeah.
Would eternity get boring for a

511
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,360
couple reasons.
Like what if there's capitalism

512
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,400
and eternity in, in eternity?
Like what if like Jesus in

513
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,040
Buddha and Confucius in, in
Muhammad?

514
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,360
What if they're like CFOs up
there and Jesus is like, you are

515
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,480
like, I have an industry to run.
I have these like footprints

516
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,600
poems.
They got to go in the frames.

517
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Your job is to put the picture
in the frame for all eternity

518
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440
because you're a nice guy.
We're not going to send you to

519
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920
hell.
But you made some really off

520
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,880
color jokes on your podcast so
you don't get too good of a job

521
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,520
like that Would get like in a
certain point, Like I'm like, if

522
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,720
there's movies, I think I'd be
OK.

523
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Like can you dial up any movie
at any time in a comfy chair

524
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,360
with your soda and popcorn?
Like that seems nice.

525
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560
I can do that for eternity for
sure.

526
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,960
I hate to say this, this is
going to get me in trouble.

527
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,600
My wife and I have been married
for 20 years.

528
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,080
I love her.
Cannot see ever being with

529
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,400
anybody else.
But after say 5 million years in

530
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,600
eternity.
Like if you if you go to heaven

531
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,760
and you reunite with all your
loved ones.

532
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Yeah.
At a certain point, do you go,

533
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,880
you know I'm good.
We know everything about each

534
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,320
other.
We have nothing really new to

535
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,360
say anymore.
Yeah.

536
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Good.
Like what happens?

537
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,360
Like is she still going to give
me chore lists in eternity like

538
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,720
she does Like every day, it's
just part of who she is.

539
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,520
And it's the same things I do
every day anyway, like dishes,

540
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,640
laundry, garbage, recycling.
And I'm like already on it.

541
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,480
It's already like, I've done it
before you even woken up.

542
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Like, they're already finished.
You don't need to write me the

543
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,040
list.
Just as who she is.

544
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:08,760
Like, if it's 7 billion years
into eternity, at what point do

545
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,960
I snap?
Like, I started to get really

546
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:17,360
freaked out in the middle of
this, like, clothing fair at

547
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Boston University.
I'm like, Oh my God.

548
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,680
Like, what is my afterlife going
to look like?

549
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,320
So yeah.
You know, I don't think the

550
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,760
Wishmaster franchise was meant
to.

551
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,760
I don't spark all of this.
Have you watched the show The

552
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Good Place?
I watched the first two or three

553
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,360
seasons, first two seasons.
OK, the I think there's Four

554
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,200
Seasons, maybe there is.
The last season explores this

555
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,480
idea of like, what is eternity?
How would it feel to really

556
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,840
exist forever?
And I really, really like the

557
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880
exploration of it.
So if you ever go back to it,

558
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,680
you might find something easy
there.

559
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,800
I love Kristen Bell.
Yeah, I like, I like Michael

560
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Shore comedy, so I should just
finish it.

561
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,880
I even thought like, I love my
dog and I'm like, well, I got to

562
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,160
spend eternally with my dog.
But then I'm like, but she's so

563
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,480
anxious and I can never even eat
a meal without her just staring

564
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,840
and shaking and being like, give
me your sausage.

565
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560
And I'm like, is that going to
get after a bit?

566
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,480
I'm like 10,000 years of that
would get old.

567
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:31,600
May maybe dude, I I don't know.
I have a headache now I'm so

568
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,360
freaked freaking out.
Are you?

569
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:41,920
You know, this maybe is more of
a function of just staring at

570
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,080
life in the world these days
than it is the Wissmaster

571
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:53,200
franchise.
Moving on, kind of similar, like

572
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880
when did this movie become super
Christian?

573
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Like all of a sudden it's like
you have this like, yeah, it's

574
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,440
like, what if, and hear me out,
you know, instead of having this

575
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,800
like other cultural monster that
we can explore and go into the

576
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,600
lore and depth on.
And maybe and you know, this is

577
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,840
probably not the one that's
going to handle it with the

578
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:18,360
highest level of sensitivity.
But what if we introduce the

579
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,880
Archangel of Michael, like Jesus
warrior, my God, to this.

580
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Yes.
And what you know.

581
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,040
And we make the wet noodle of a
boyfriend, the Archangel of.

582
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,639
Michael, I was so thrown off
when she pulls an Angel out of

583
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:39,880
her ass essentially because
nothing in the 1st 2 movies

584
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,560
prepared me that an Angel would
fight the djinn and none of the

585
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,280
lore.
In the third movie up to the

586
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,120
moment she doesn't suggest that
this would be a good idea.

587
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,800
She happens to find herself in a
church, sees a stained glass

588
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,520
window, presumably of Michael,
and is like, I choose you,

589
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,720
Pikachu.
I want Michael the Archangel

590
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:09,080
here with me with his sword.
And I've got Angel logistics

591
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,360
questions like why does he have
to take over a body?

592
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,960
Why does he have to get in a
car?

593
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:24,120
He gets in a car and I'm like OK
so if he is bound by the

594
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,480
restrictions of a human body
while he's in a human body, then

595
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880
why is he a good one to fight
the jinn?

596
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,560
Like that doesn't make him a
useful adversary towards the

597
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,360
Jinn.
What sort of mode of

598
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,120
transportation would you prefer?
Can he's fucking a magic?

599
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,200
He's an Angel.
Like can he fly?

600
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,360
Can he do anything more useful
than show up with a sword that

601
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,520
Diana can't even have until she
decides to kill herself?

602
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,840
Like I feel like this Angel was
nothing but like I don't know

603
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,720
where the idea came from to
include this Angel and it

604
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,320
doesn't make a damn bit of
sense.

605
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,160
Well, good thing there's a lot
of like, production notes behind

606
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,280
this.
Oh, there's not.

607
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Oh.
No, in this movie, we'll never

608
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,800
know.
Well, we see the end of the

609
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,040
movie, like, he goes from the
top of the roof to, like, where

610
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,320
Diana's, like, laying kind of,
you know, dying on the ground.

611
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,480
Yeah.
So like, you can teleport, it

612
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:27,160
seems, or cover large distances
quickly and safely.

613
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,080
Yeah.
So he's not riding the bus.

614
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,880
Like, it would be worse if like,
if like they were on the bus,

615
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,000
like, wait a minute, I don't
have my transfer ticket.

616
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,640
And then he just gets stranded.
He's doing that would be worse

617
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,960
at the bus stop where you look
down the street and you're

618
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,240
waiting for the bus to come and
you're just leaning out, looking

619
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:48,440
down the street like be more
useful, dude.

620
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,400
Now the reason they had to put
him in the car is so that we

621
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,240
could have the car crash that
looks exactly like the car crash

622
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,840
at the beginning of the movie,
damn near down to the like inch.

623
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,000
You know what?
That was one of my mental notes

624
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,840
that I would have written down
if I took notes.

625
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,000
Did the witchmaster series is it
did it like did a 24 look at

626
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,840
like the first wishmaster in
this wishmaster and go trauma

627
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,120
horror?
Trauma.

628
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,520
Yeah, because like in the first
movie, you know, our lead, our

629
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,600
heroine, like, her parents have
died in a fire.

630
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,760
And in this movie, the parents
die in a car accident that that

631
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,960
she kind of causes by being a
snotty little brat.

632
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,440
And she just can't, like, you
know, so the parents have to do

633
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,560
some parenting.
And Dad's not looking at the

634
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,600
road.
And, you know, they get what

635
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640
they deserve for being bad
parents.

636
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,280
There, I said it.
There, I said it.

637
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Yikes on bikes.
And This is why for eternity I'm

638
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,240
just putting those pictures and
picture frames.

639
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,040
That is why.
Oh man, shout out to everybody's

640
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,040
mom in the 90s who had that
Footprints poem in her bathroom.

641
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,240
Yeah.
My grandmother had the and this

642
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,960
really fucked with my head when
I was young.

643
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,080
May May you get to heaven an
hour before the devil knows

644
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,400
you're dead.
And that really freaked.

645
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Me out.
Is she Irish?

646
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,160
That's an Irish Irish.
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

647
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,360
No, she was Italian.
She was Sedoya, but my

648
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,040
grandfather was Irish.
But yeah, that is that was you

649
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,360
see that as a 5 year old and
you're like, I don't how does

650
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,560
that work?
Like what would they do?

651
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,800
How?
Can I make sure like is that

652
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680
the?
Plot Is that the plot of Sam

653
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,240
Raimis drag me to hell?
Like is this so?

654
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,000
Yes, yeah.
But I think like a 24 sees this

655
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,320
and they're like what if we did
this but spent more than like

656
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,480
$175 in Canadian currency to
make this work?

657
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,560
And then you have like
hereditary, you have St.

658
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:07,920
Maude, you have you have bring
her back which.

659
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,920
Yeah.
So good.

660
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,640
I'm excited to see it.
Not a spoiler.

661
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,600
I don't want to know anything.
I I wouldn't completely blind,

662
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,360
I'll just say in terms of a
reaction, like Sinners is the

663
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,520
best movie of the year, Bring
Her Back might be the best

664
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,320
horror movie of the year.
OK.

665
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,760
Like there were moments in that
movie that I visibly cringed and

666
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,160
gasped and recoiled, which never
happens to me anymore.

667
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,240
And I think you have more of a
stomach for it than I do, and

668
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,400
I'd be really interested.
I can't wait to see it.

669
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,920
Didn't know a single thing about
it either before heading in, and

670
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,320
I loved it.
And Devon, who if he were here,

671
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,280
would say right now, yeah, it
was a movie.

672
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,320
So that was his reaction.
The ugly step sister almost made

673
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,040
me throw up.
That's how we watched it.

674
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,720
Yet that's what I haven't seen
yet.

675
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,440
It almost made me throw up.
My top ten right now, like if

676
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,040
the year ended right now, would
be maybe better than almost any

677
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,240
top ten I've had in five years
with half a year left.

678
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,440
That's.
Awesome.

679
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,160
It's been it's an incredible
time to be.

680
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,120
This was the other existential
crime.

681
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Like two things happen like the
other existential crisis.

682
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
I'm like, there have been some
incredible movies like you just

683
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,840
mentioned Ugly Step Sister.
Yeah.

684
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Friendship, which I howled.
I want to see that.

685
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,400
That looks awesome.
Ada just started yelling at the

686
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,920
screen, like, what was this?
What did we watch?

687
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:46,600
She started screaming in a
panic, like, it's yeah, bring

688
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,240
her back.
And there's stuff that's coming

689
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,720
out that looks amazing together,
looks unbelievable.

690
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,120
You really liked the monkey?
I loved the monkey.

691
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,800
I thought the monkey was great.
And you.

692
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Yeah.
Final destination.

693
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,120
None of these movies which we're
covering on the main feed except

694
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,560
the format of the show, right?
And I'm like, what are we doing

695
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,040
here?
Like why are we we're?

696
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,280
Covering Wishmaster 3 and when
will Michael?

697
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,280
Why are we covered?
Wishmaster 3 And and then I

698
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,720
thought like, because I don't,
you know, like I the joke is

699
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,880
like we've had guesses of like,
why don't you promote this show

700
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,320
more?
And I'm like, I don't know, like

701
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,440
I'm just not a big like I'm
working 60 hours a week and

702
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,800
being a dad and I don't like
social media.

703
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:35,640
Then I thought like I would end
the show tomorrow if it meant

704
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,560
listen this is.
I would.

705
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,720
I'm listening.
I'm just I.

706
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Think this is a good thing?
I would end the show tomorrow.

707
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,040
I would turn this car around and
I.

708
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Would flip this car and kill the
family.

709
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Oh my God, and then see them in
eternity.

710
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,160
Well, do my little job of
putting the Jesus pictures in.

711
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,320
I would end the show tomorrow if
it meant that every week we as a

712
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,480
group and maybe not the same of
us, it could like we do the

713
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,560
show.
Some weeks it's you, me and

714
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,280
Devon.
Some of the weeks it's you, Ryan

715
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,560
Stevens.
Some weeks like Rachel and Jess

716
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,720
or Nicole jump in, you know,
like that who we went to a

717
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:19,480
movie, we got a beer or a dinner
together or went to my house and

718
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:24,480
I grilled burgers and we sat
down and just like talked about

719
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,960
the movies in person together
and never hit record on a

720
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,640
button.
It was just like I would much

721
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,480
rather like friendship actually
sparked that like like which is

722
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,320
what I did in 2002.
Like when this movie was out,

723
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,760
like every week friends came
over to watch horror movies.

724
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,080
We grilled, we talked about
movies and then that just kind

725
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600
of goes away and now we pop.
I would end the shadow.

726
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,680
I love our listeners.
You're awesome, you're amazing.

727
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,240
I would like more of you so my
ego, but at the end of the day,

728
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,560
I would much rather like meet
people in person, if that makes

729
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,600
sense.
So that is like the other part

730
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,520
of the but I cannot see us if we
all were like next door

731
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,640
neighbors saying like let's get
together, grill a bunch of

732
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,680
burgers and throw on Wishmaster
3.

733
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,360
Probably not.
That is the fun thing about

734
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,440
podcasting is it kind of gives
you an excuse to watch stuff you

735
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,960
wouldn't ever.
And I I do like that.

736
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,680
No, All right.
What were your thoughts about

737
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040
the other couple in this?
Movie.

738
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,800
Oh, the the Tatum and Stew
allegory.

739
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,680
Is that Katie and Billy or that
is that like who they were?

740
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,160
Yes, Katie and Billy, they're
what a mess.

741
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,000
I thought that's when you said
like, dump him.

742
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,920
I thought that's who you meant.
Yeah, I mean, they're not great

743
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,520
together, but they're she.
Katie seems sure of herself.

744
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,680
And so I was like, OK, you know
what's going on?

745
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,080
You're fine.
There's Chekov's horns, the

746
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,480
horns at the beginning of the
movie, The there's like a head

747
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,920
and then it kills someone later,
so there you go.

748
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:12,480
Is Billy like 2001 guy in like
distilled to its purest form?

749
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Oh yeah, I think so.
I think that was the like the

750
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,640
outline of of the male young
person in 2001.

751
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Just sort of like crass and rude
and like horny and just kind of

752
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,280
self absorbed.
Openly talking about wanting to

753
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,240
like sleep with other women.
Right with.

754
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,760
This girlfriend.
Right.

755
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,680
You see characters like that
throughout the 2000s, especially

756
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,600
in comedies, but also in horror,
particularly slashers.

757
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:45,520
Yeah.
Is this a slasher?

758
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,520
Like what would you call this I?
Don't know what this is.

759
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,720
That's a great question.
The Wishmaster franchise has a

760
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,720
slasher.
I mean, it does have the formula

761
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:58,000
of like a group of friends and a
killer and he's killing them one

762
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:04,960
by one, but the sort of
supernatural element makes me

763
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,120
feel like it's not as much of A
slasher.

764
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,360
Like I don't feel a Hellraiser
is a slasher.

765
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,400
No, it's definitely.
Not, but like I would say A

766
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Nightmare on Elm Street is, and
this is somewhere between those

767
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,120
two maybe.
Yeah, like Elm Street is the

768
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,040
rare supernatural slasher that
really works, I think.

769
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,360
Yes, because you're right.
It's usually not, you know, And

770
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:38,120
when like the more slashers go
into supernatural elements, like

771
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,760
as they continue on, the less
successful they are.

772
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,160
Like you see that with
Halloween.

773
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,040
And by the time you get to like,
the Thorn trilogy, you're like,

774
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,760
the power of the runes killed
the franchise.

775
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,840
And you get to like, you know,
as as much fun as like Friday

776
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,640
the 13th Part 6 is Jason Lives,
which is one of the highlights

777
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,840
of the series.
I kind of feel like it's mostly

778
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,240
diminishing returns from there.
Yeah.

779
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Although I love Jason Goes to
Hell, like everyone know,

780
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,640
because it does something
different.

781
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,680
It does something like so
different, yeah.

782
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,160
What were some of your other
questions about Michael

783
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,240
Archangel?
We answered the one about

784
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,640
transportation, but there were
others.

785
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,720
I don't know, mostly just like
why is he there?

786
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,960
And like the sword he brought is
confusing to me.

787
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Like it just injects a bunch of
lore into a bunch of unstable

788
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,720
lore that we already had that
were now we're like, well, now

789
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:43,280
we have to keep track of more
lore.

790
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,160
But none of it makes sense, no?
I wouldn't say like it would be

791
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200
kind of weird to be running
around campus with a giant

792
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,320
sword.
I don't understand this campus

793
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,360
at all.
It's.

794
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,440
What were your thoughts on it?
Well, the geography of it

795
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,880
doesn't make a damn bit of
sense.

796
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,040
So it seems like the dorm is
also the science building.

797
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,680
Like they would be in a dorm
partying and then suddenly

798
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,280
they'd be in a science building
and someone said they were like

799
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,960
going to go to a party, but then
it was just at the dorm they

800
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,240
were at, but it seemed like they
were leaving to go somewhere

801
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:21,240
else.
And sometimes there's no other

802
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:23,520
people like other than the party
scenes.

803
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,080
In the classroom jumped out at
me.

804
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,920
This campus is like, it's like,
is it spring break?

805
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Hospital.
Yeah, or the Halloween H2O where

806
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,480
you at least you at least go far
enough to say like everybody is

807
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:44,200
off campus for this camping trip
here.

808
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,320
You're like, well, maybe it's
spring break, but then you

809
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,480
remember, no, they were just in
class an hour ago.

810
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,520
There's no people around.
It's almost like they, there's

811
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,960
like a handheld quality to a lot
of this.

812
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,960
And yeah, they weren't like,
would it shock you if they came

813
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,640
out and said we never got
permits and we just like filmed

814
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,160
in the wee hours of the night
and it's like gorilla filmmaking

815
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,720
and it just kind of got picked
up.

816
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,800
Do you know what?
And I know that's not what

817
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,280
happened, but it's it seems.
Like plausible.

818
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,040
Yeah, it feels like this is a
movie that just tried, you know,

819
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,760
like, hey, little buddy, like
you wanted to make a movie, a

820
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,760
good movie, and you tried really
hard.

821
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,360
Good for you.
Yes, good for you.

822
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:37,640
Wishmaster 3 like and it's not
like wrong turn 5 is probably

823
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,720
like a better made movie in
terms of like camera setup and

824
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:45,760
angles and shots and editing and
music like and it looks better

825
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,200
right, like it does like this
movie does have that like cheap

826
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,640
straight to video like almost
like DV video feel to it.

827
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:00,360
Yeah, but wrong turn 5 offended
me on like AI don't want to say

828
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,960
a moral level, but just I don't
like how dare you make me sit

829
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,440
through this.
Like this just feels like so

830
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,880
mean spirited and so terrible
that like I can't believe you're

831
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,440
making me sit through this.
Where where is like I never got

832
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,000
that feeling from this.
It's just kind of like it's just

833
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,600
kind of there.
This movie is sincere.

834
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,120
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, it doesn't feel like

835
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,880
a cash grab in the way that some
sequels feel like just a cash

836
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,440
grab.
Like this movie cares about the

837
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,600
Gin and the Gin's lore and it
wants to do stuff with that.

838
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,640
It's just that maybe there were
too many ideas.

839
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,440
Maybe there weren't enough
ideas.

840
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,920
This movie is kind of in the
middle of not nailing on anyone

841
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,480
thing.
Before I ask about John Novak,

842
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,440
is the gin in his performance?
If you're Diana at the end of

843
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,800
this movie, I'm sorry, no, it's
Jason Connery is the professor

844
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,840
and then John Novak is the dude
of the gin Makeup, which I think

845
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,680
is 1 big thing that's different
is like in the films, it's

846
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,000
Andrew Divov under the makeup as
well.

847
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,040
Yes, you know, But if you're
Diana at the end of this movie,

848
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:23,440
do you want Archangel Angel
Michael or do you want Greg to

849
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,320
come back?
Like if you have to pick one,

850
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,960
you can't be like neither.
I was going to say neither.

851
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:36,480
I guess bring Greg back because
it wasn't really fair to him

852
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,520
that his soul got shoved
elsewhere for a bit, but then

853
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,560
dump him.
He's a wet noodle man.

854
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,680
You're a hot college student, go
do something else.

855
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,400
Well.
He's a good looking dude.

856
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,800
He's not an Oh my God.
Bugged me Mike, I don't like

857
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,920
him.
I want her to dump.

858
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,280
Him I don't disagree with.
You.

859
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,360
He's whiny and I'm whiny about
him.

860
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,560
You.
Know he's making he's caught his

861
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,920
entitled behavior, his sense of
entitlement, his sense of

862
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,280
entitlement to Diana's time and
his lack of being able to

863
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,520
respect boundaries she's put up
as as causing you to feel like a

864
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,200
certain way.
I understand that.

865
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,520
I'll say this like, Billy does
kind of redeem himself a bit

866
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,720
when like, he's confronted by
the Jinn and he's like, you need

867
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:24,760
me to do what?
Like, you want me to give up my

868
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,120
friend?
He's like, yeah, fuck off.

869
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,480
And he knows.
Like, I'm pretty fucked right

870
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,680
now.
Yeah, Billy stays true to the

871
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,440
end.
That's pretty.

872
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,720
Cool, you know, like there's
might have been hope like Billy,

873
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,960
because I'm what was I like in
the early?

874
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,640
I don't think I was ever that
bad.

875
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,800
Like I was never a Billy, but
like, you know, I probably had

876
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,920
some qualities back then that.
Sure.

877
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,240
Hopefully grew out of so there's
hope like maybe like Billy now

878
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:53,280
would be like you know we can we
can all change and yeah a little

879
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,080
bit more empathetic and and
whatnot.

880
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,160
Jason Connery is the gin as as
the gin in the human form as

881
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:11,400
Professor Joel Barash, fun fact,
placed sixth place at the Simon

882
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:18,240
Pegg Idaho State Fair look alike
contest in 2014, so is.

883
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,960
That for real?
Or is that a joke?

884
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,840
That's a total joke.
Oh, OK.

885
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Mike, you know I'm the most
gullible person on this pod.

886
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,600
I was like, oh wow, that's.
True.

887
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,880
Sorry.
It's OK.

888
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,160
I'll tell you what though.
Tell me what?

889
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,240
You know he was married to for a
good six year.

890
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:40,640
I think he might have rubbed a
lamp and been granted a little

891
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,680
wish.
Little Mia Sarah you might known

892
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,160
as Sloane Peterson from.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

893
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,680
Interesting.
Like are you fucking kidding me?

894
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,680
Right.
Like married to her and I just

895
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,200
learned that right now, like
just clicking on this page.

896
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,240
Married her in 1996, divorced in
2002.

897
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,480
Maybe this movie did it.
I didn't want to suggest that I

898
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,080
didn't want to be the one, but
here we are.

899
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,280
Do you think that like he, you
know, showed her this when they

900
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,080
went to the world premiere
screening?

901
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,440
Like maybe they get like the
Chinese Theatre and man's for

902
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,240
like the one theatrical
screening and they're all

903
00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:28,960
excited and they dress up and
they hit the red carpet and they

904
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,640
go and he turns to her and he's
like, what did you think, honey?

905
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,760
Like light of my life.
Like we've been together like

906
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,680
almost 10 years now.
And because I wouldn't assume

907
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,880
they dated for a few who knows.
And she just looks at him and

908
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,560
just shakes her head.
She.

909
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,720
Says I wish for a divorce.
Oh God and serve.

910
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,680
And then like a dude dressed
like the gym comes and serves

911
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,880
him papers.
I mean it writes.

912
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,600
Oh my God, That would be.
Now I feel bad because

913
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,280
sometimes, like performers like,
yeah, Google their names or the

914
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,240
movies they're in or there's
alerts and they're going to be

915
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:12,240
like, oh, wait a minute,
someone's done a pot in Witch

916
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,400
Master 3 and we've just made a
joke of his like.

917
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,920
Divorce, we shouldn't do that,
but but it's still pretty funny.

918
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,440
It was pretty well put together.
It's still pretty funny.

919
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Big step down.
I agree there's no from Andrew

920
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,920
Dibboff.
Like there's just no way of

921
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,120
like.
I think just.

922
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Noise in is what hurts it
because I think.

923
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,440
It's not bad.
No, not at all.

924
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,120
If the first two wishmasters
didn't exist and this was the

925
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,920
Wishmaster that we know.
Totally fine villain.

926
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,360
He's shmarmy.
He's a little more sleazy than

927
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,360
the Andrew Devoff version.
Much more.

928
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,760
So so like he's a good villain
and he does the the Wishmaster

929
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,760
thing.
It's just that Division off is

930
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,240
so good and we get 2 movies to
just luxuriate in that

931
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:06,440
experience that the comparison
really knocks it down here.

932
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,960
No, it's, you know, and they, I
think, you know, the film makers

933
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,960
do something smart where they're
like, OK, we're going to get a

934
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,560
British villain because yeah, at
the end of the day, like when

935
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,960
you can get like the Brits, they
play phenomenal villains.

936
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,120
Yes.
Just kind of looking at his IMDb

937
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,680
or his career.
Holy cow has.

938
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,480
He done a lot.
Gonna feel stupid for not for we

939
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,600
we we kind of lead with a big
one in terms of his spouse.

940
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,520
Uh huh.
I want you to go to his

941
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,520
Wikipedia right now.
All right.

942
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:52,920
His Wikipedia is Jason Connery.
Jason Connery, go ahead and

943
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,240
click on that right now.
I'll wait.

944
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:02,280
And listeners, you wait, OK?
You said his Wikipedia, not his

945
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,040
IMDb.
His Wikipedia.

946
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,880
OK.
You see the picture of him?

947
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840
He's at a convention.
OK, it looks like.

948
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,560
Scroll down.
Oh.

949
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,760
My God.
Well.

950
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,840
That's Sean Connery's son.
He's Sean Connery's son.

951
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,040
Mr. James Bond himself.
I mean, I guess I didn't put

952
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,440
that together.
We were today days old.

953
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,760
We learned it, the gin in Witch
Master 3 now.

954
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,000
Hmm.
Sean Connery was not above

955
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,480
slapping people.
Right.

956
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Famously bragged about it.
Yeah, do you think he slapped

957
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,840
his kid for the?
Appearing in this.

958
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,920
Movie like how dare oh appear
and disgrace the family name.

959
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,960
For this movie, no.
I think he probably smacked his

960
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,920
kid for all types of other
reasons, but probably not for.

961
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Being in a movie.
Yeah, you know, yeah.

962
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,840
Calling them fries instead of
chips.

963
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,360
Right.
And you're.

964
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,160
Getting too American, things
like that.

965
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,520
So.
Heck, we didn't even put Connery

966
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,880
together.
My goodness did not even.

967
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,600
This is the hard hitting facts
you come to the pod in the

968
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,720
pendulum, but this is.
Where we usually do really well.

969
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:16,560
Like I know we did not.
Usually listen like we are all

970
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,840
over this and we just could not
because it's just this just with

971
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,240
this movie inspires you.
Know Yep yeah, we.

972
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,640
Just couldn't be asked on about
it, you know, Certainly I don't,

973
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:33,000
I don't think we're going to top
our on the spot realization that

974
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,840
Jason Connery is the son of Sean
Connery.

975
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,960
Probably don't.
Really have much else to add.

976
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,640
No.
About this movie.

977
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,080
I think, I think we can.
We can end on a high note with

978
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:50,160
that call every day.
We got not one, but two

979
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,560
existential crises.
Yeah, congratulations.

980
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,640
On those.
So Ari, where can folks find you

981
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,120
and what do you want to plug?
Yes, so you can find me on all

982
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,760
the socials at RE under score
Hellraiser and I'm here to set

983
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,640
the record straight publicly
because in the first talk about

984
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,920
this, yes, in the first
Wistmaster episode, which I was

985
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,200
not on, it was speculated that
I've seen all the Hellraiser

986
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,520
movies, which is a fair piece of
speculation.

987
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,960
It is not true.
I've only seen the first 3,

988
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,680
which I like very much.
I look forward to the day I

989
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,080
actually watch them all the way
through and have my hot myself a

990
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,680
hot sun and bite summer.
But the reason my nail.

991
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,880
One of our listeners is really.
He's leaning in.

992
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,840
I love.
It I feel like I'm letting him

993
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,600
down by not.
I'm like, no, we're not doing

994
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,720
he.
Knows he knows, but he's still

995
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,360
having he does yeah, he and I
talked about it but he's he's

996
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,560
having a hot sun and bite summer
anyway so.

997
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,960
He's having one on his.
Own yes, yes, I might join him

998
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,400
just for solidarity's sake.
But no, my name is Arie

999
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,560
Hellraiser because my government
name is Arielle, which sounds

1000
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,120
like Arielle and it writes
itself for an online persona.

1001
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,240
I have never said I've seen all
the Hellraisers.

1002
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,160
OK, you never came out and
explicitly said I have seen all

1003
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:20,280
the hell raisers, but because I
did a legit double take when you

1004
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,680
post that on the slack, like I
was like, are you kidding?

1005
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,000
And I think the phrase I used is
like, you have committed a great

1006
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,360
fraud.
Yeah, I feel like I have been

1007
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,320
defrauded.
Like like I.

1008
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,720
Feel like that's on you buddy.
I never.

1009
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,640
But here's the thing though.
You have been the one that has

1010
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,280
requested repeatedly for us to
do.

1011
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,840
How raised are the franchise,
despite the fact that you know

1012
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,480
how my feelings about it?
It's because of your feelings.

1013
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,120
But then I thought, like, are
she and Devon in cahoots?

1014
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,640
Like, do they want to break me?
Because I'll say this like,

1015
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,920
listeners, May's been really
tough.

1016
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,960
Like I've had a couple level.
Things have come up that have

1017
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,120
made made tough.
Just got to get like, it's just

1018
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,160
mostly work stuff that we get to
muddle through and I'm like, are

1019
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,640
Ariel and Devon trying to kill
me?

1020
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,240
We really are not are.
You sure?

1021
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,800
I would you tell me.
Would you tell me if you were?

1022
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,960
Mike, do you think I could hide
something like that?

1023
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,560
Well, you won't admit to crimes
you have committed.

1024
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,280
I've.
Admitted to crimes on this

1025
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,160
podcast.
They are recorded for posterity.

1026
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,240
I have.
To I don't remember.

1027
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,920
Them.
OK, well, I'm not admitting

1028
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,960
again.
I did it once, listeners.

1029
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,360
No, no, The thing is one of the
first things, really.

1030
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,600
And Hellraiser's in the name it
is.

1031
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:45,560
I think Ari Hell things sounds
better than Ari Hellraiser.

1032
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,080
I don't want to just be Ari Hell
on socials.

1033
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,800
That's OK.
That's that's your choice.

1034
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,960
Hey, your name, your choice.
One of the.

1035
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,920
First things, your decisions.
You said to me when I started on

1036
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,160
this podcast was we will never
do Hellraiser, and I said bet.

1037
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,120
You said challenge accepted.
Right.

1038
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,080
So that's kind of where that has
come from.

1039
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Are we going to do, because
starting in July, we're going to

1040
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,160
do the Back to the Future movies
we're going to do for Patreon

1041
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,160
for the Patrons?
Yeah.

1042
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,840
And then we add the idea of, all
right, we'll do Hellraiser, but

1043
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,760
what we'll do is like one a
month and we'll do like the

1044
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:29,400
first one on the main feed.
And then we'll do one a month on

1045
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:35,120
the Patreon page and then maybe
the last one on the main feed,

1046
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,600
the Hulu one.
And then listeners can go ahead

1047
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,200
and like for 2 bucks to get
access to all the hell raisers

1048
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,080
at that point, which I think is
fair, like, and we'll do like

1049
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,440
the deep, deep dives as much as
we can.

1050
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,600
I think we're going to run into
a few of them where it's going

1051
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,760
to be not necessarily super easy
to get a lot of background

1052
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,160
stuff.
Like the background will be this

1053
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,400
was a script written for a
different movie and the wine

1054
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,600
scene said make it a hell raiser
movie and Doug Bradley showed up

1055
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,360
for four days and put a check in
his hand and that will be the

1056
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,400
background.
I don't know.

1057
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,320
Is that what we're going to do?
I suppose.

1058
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,880
I mean, it's we can, I'm down.
I kind of feel like we buried

1059
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,280
the lead by saying like coming
in July, like Back to the

1060
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,760
Future, like that's the next
thing we'll do for them.

1061
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,120
Like one of the greatest.
The sequels are good.

1062
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:36,240
I mean, like 2 is really weird
and three is shouldn't exist.

1063
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,520
It's, you know, it's not that
good, but the first Back to the

1064
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,920
Future is perfect.
Yeah.

1065
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,240
Perfect.
I don't know if you'll be on

1066
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,760
though, so I'll ask you this
question.

1067
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,480
You can only keep one Back to
the Future.

1068
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,760
Like one movie Back to the
Future or Hellraiser or Witch

1069
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,800
Master Three.
No Back to the Future or

1070
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,480
Ghostbusters.
Back to the Future.

1071
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,920
Back to the future, same.
Yeah.

1072
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:04,320
Yeah, for sure.
Yep.

1073
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,360
And it's not even a hard choice.
And I love Ghostbusters.

1074
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,680
Yeah, super easy choice for me,
yeah.

1075
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,640
It's very good.
Maybe you will be on that one

1076
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,000
because that was such an easy
choice.

1077
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,560
So who knows?
We'll see.

1078
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,680
Did you?
I don't have anything to plug

1079
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,440
really.
The audiobook.

1080
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,680
Oh yeah, why do you remember my
shit better than me?

1081
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:31,040
Yeah, Millennial Nasties has an
audiobook now, so you can choose

1082
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,480
your own adventure.
You can do hardcover, paperback,

1083
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,640
ebook or audiobook if that is
your thing.

1084
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,760
So the audiobooks only available
through Amazon so you know

1085
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,600
them's the brakes, but it is
there so you can get it if you

1086
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:47,440
want there.
You.

1087
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,320
Go strong plug.
I know it's hard to plug your

1088
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,200
own stuff.
I mean, it is.

1089
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,720
It is.
It's like you don't.

1090
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,120
Yeah, I get that.
But it is a tremendous book and

1091
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,400
it's such a good read.
So I was like fortunate enough

1092
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,440
to read like an advanced copy of
it And like listeners, it should

1093
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,200
be on your shelf or it should be
in your, if you have Audible,

1094
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,920
like it should be in your
Audible file.

1095
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,440
Like a good, I would say a good
beach read.

1096
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,720
Like, you know, it's one of
those books you can pick up, do

1097
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,480
a chapter when you're out by the
pool or on the beach, you know,

1098
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,800
take a dive and then come back.
So, you know, like it should

1099
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,640
definitely be out there.
And I did not read it, so you

1100
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,520
don't have to listen to my voice
anymore.

1101
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,120
No, it's.
Charles Nelson Reilly.

1102
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,640
Right.
Should be incredible if you

1103
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,080
could have gotten No, it's who
is who reads it.

1104
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,040
It's a woman named Megan who's
on staff with Encycle

1105
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,520
Apocalypse.
She's perfect.

1106
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,680
She is from, I think she's
originally from Chicago and so

1107
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,120
she even has a similar accent to
mine so.

1108
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,160
Excellent.
All great, fantastic, fantastic.

1109
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,200
Well, listeners.
Oh, we didn't even do our

1110
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,280
housekeeping at the beginning.
Oh yeah, What are we this?

1111
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,800
We're a mess.
Today guys, it has been.

1112
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,520
I took like a three day weekend
so I could go to the movies on

1113
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,760
Friday for bring her back in
Karate Kids LED.

1114
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,640
I thought the new Wes Anderson
was out but it's not out here

1115
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,160
until next week but I did.
I wanted to do 3 movies but I

1116
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:21,000
did see Karate Kid Legends which
a lot of fun but don't reinvent

1117
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,440
the wheel.
I will say that Joshua Jackson

1118
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:30,440
is giving Josh Hartnett a run
for the like holy shit that Josh

1119
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,400
aged really fucking well.
Run for the money.

1120
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,320
Like he looks really good in the
movie and good.

1121
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,840
For him.
Yeah, I texted what?

1122
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,640
I'm a Co host from a show I used
to do who was having like not

1123
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,360
the best day and I'm like saw
you weren't having a great day.

1124
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,040
I thought this information would
cheer you up but she's like

1125
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,120
thank you.
It does.

1126
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:53,200
Didn't even know he was in it.
Anyway, if you like our

1127
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,560
bullshit, if you like what we do
here, please rate, review, and

1128
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,080
subscribe to us everywhere you
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1129
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,120
Make sure you're leaving us a
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1130
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,560
words.
And on Spotify you can comment

1131
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,560
on individual episodes.
Always appreciate when folks do

1132
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,240
that.
Someone left one like going back

1133
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,200
into the archives on the bonus
show that you and Rebecca did on

1134
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,440
the three Human Centipede movies
did.

1135
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,360
Somebody leave a.
Comment Yeah, they were just

1136
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,920
like, hey, it's a heads up.
Like you can watch like the

1137
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,800
second one in color, like as a
bonus feature on the DVD.

1138
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,080
It's like the reverse of the
mist where there's like the

1139
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,800
black and white version.
So I thought that.

1140
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,360
Thank you so much.
We always love school.

1141
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,600
Yeah.
Thank you for that.

1142
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,120
That's awesome.
We would love if you would

1143
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:40,520
become a patron by going to
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1144
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:46,680
and sign up for a couple bucks.
You get tons of bonus content

1145
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,360
out there, including all of
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1146
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,120
on Your Grave franchise.
And now, as of now, all of

1147
01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,000
Brian's episodes on Nosferatu
are up there as well, with some

1148
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:05,480
spirited discussions on Robert
Eggers 2025 movie.

1149
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,120
That was a fun episode.
Yeah, it always is Brian and as

1150
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:14,000
all of you are so amazing.
So you can only are going to get

1151
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:19,240
those on the Patreon page.
So go to patreon.com/pot of the

1152
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,080
pendulum become a patron today.
And it, you know, it's a way to

1153
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,200
show appreciation for my Co host
and give them, you know, a few

1154
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,560
bucks for like the hard work
that they put in to honestly act

1155
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,400
as my therapist as I sit here
and I'm just like, I'm going to

1156
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,160
die one day.
And what if I have to like help

1157
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,240
Jesus run his corporation by
putting pictures in?

1158
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,800
Like, I don't know, I just and
listeners, I don't know.

1159
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,640
Here's what's coming up.
We got one more Wishmaster

1160
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,400
movie, which we're going to kind
of get through.

1161
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,960
And then we have two really fun
episodes planned.

1162
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:01,280
Final Destination Bloodlines,
which a lot of people are saying

1163
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,160
is the best one in the
franchise.

1164
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,560
I don't know if I would go that
far, but it is a lot of fun.

1165
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:12,520
It is an absolute hoot.
I've seen it twice, first time

1166
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,920
with the raucous crowd that
about midway through the movie

1167
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,200
realized, oh, this is a comedy
like this is not a horror movie.

1168
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,479
This is a flat out comedy.
It's great.

1169
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,040
Can't wait to talk about it.
And then we're going to do

1170
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,680
because now that we're six
entries in I am, are you, are

1171
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,160
you shocked at how well have you
seen Bloodlines?

1172
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,800
Yes.
OK, where are you on it?

1173
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,000
Good, bad.
In the middle.

1174
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,479
I'm in the middle on it.
I didn't want to.

1175
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,200
I didn't want to break your
spirit by doing Devon's, so I

1176
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,000
like.
Devon, who would be like, oh,

1177
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,279
you love that movie?
I thought it was garbage.

1178
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:51,319
It's funny because like, Devon's
letterbox review was almost

1179
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:55,200
exactly my thoughts on that.
OK, so he and I are aligned on

1180
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:55,520
that.
OK.

1181
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,279
I feel like I have the people on
my side on this one.

1182
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,479
Yeah, I will say the second time
I saw it, it's like, all right,

1183
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,640
There are parts that drag and
the lead, the lead in it is like

1184
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,200
super boring.
Like she is like super, not a

1185
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,760
lot.
And also people get over death

1186
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,960
like very quickly in that movie.
Like, yeah.

1187
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,840
Like we just buried mom, let's
go have a BBQ.

1188
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:23,800
Like what are we doing here?
But I guess that human sized

1189
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,920
Jenga blocks aren't going to
play themselves.

1190
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,359
That's true.
But we're going to on that note

1191
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:36,319
where after we cover Bloodlines,
we are going to rank all of the

1192
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:41,120
Final Destination films and go
one through 6, although you know

1193
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,600
there's going to be a 7 like
they've made over 100.

1194
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,040
Yeah.
Domestically, I feel like I've

1195
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,920
said this before, it's the best
franchise of the first decade of

1196
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,680
the 2000s.
Like it's the most.

1197
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,520
Consistent and I know like it's
that or so in terms of what they

1198
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:03,040
are and I know where you are
you're like saw city, but I just

1199
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,520
I don't know it's it never
wavers from the formula.

1200
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:12,280
It knows what it is.
It's we're going to also not

1201
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,120
only rank the films, but also
the opening set pieces.

1202
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,200
We're not going to do every
death.

1203
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,000
Oh, I like that.
Yeah, we're just going to do

1204
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,280
like the opening set pieces.
And that'll be good.

1205
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,720
After that, we have the Romero
film.

1206
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,600
It's the Summer of George.
We're going to be covering all

1207
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,360
six of Romero's Living Dead
movies.

1208
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:37,160
But that is when we'll get back
to, like, insanely long,

1209
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,680
ridiculously researched,
meticulous.

1210
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,160
Yeah.
So this is the calm before the

1211
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,080
storm.
Truly.

1212
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,000
So we'll be covering all of
Romero's films.

1213
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,000
And then in addition, because
apparently I said sure, we

1214
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,800
should do that, Zack Snyder's
Dawn of the Dead, which is a

1215
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,520
terrific and probably his best
movie, and also Tom Savini's

1216
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,400
1990 remake of Night of the
Living Dead, so.

1217
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,600
Yeah, you did they?
I did.

1218
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,440
I did say it, so I can't really.
You can change your mind.

1219
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,800
No, but it's not fair.
It's not, you know, you guys are

1220
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,280
giving me your time.
And if that's a movie and like

1221
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,400
we, you know, like we, it's
technically not part of the

1222
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,680
Romero franchise, but like, are
they going to throw me in prison

1223
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,360
for this, Like.
They're going to put you in

1224
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,240
podcast jail?
Oh my God.

1225
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:34,400
Are they going to do that?
So that's really, I really want

1226
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,760
a place to talk about friendship
though, because that movie, God

1227
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,360
damn, that movie rules.
I mean, you can put anything you

1228
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,000
want on the show.
I know you can do.

1229
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,080
A friendship.
Box Yeah, find something.

1230
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,160
Oh, and then we got to figure
something out for episode 300,

1231
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:57,200
which I've pitched top 25 horror
movies of the 1st 25 year, like

1232
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:02,160
2000 to 2024, so we don't have a
recency.

1233
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,000
Oh yes.
Yeah, we just do 25 movies.

1234
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,200
You don't do 25 each.
And let's see what kind of

1235
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,600
bloodbath we can get.
Oh, that if we're not, if we're

1236
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,800
not doing 25 each.
That did send a cold chill down

1237
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,640
my spine.
We have to agree on something.

1238
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,360
Can't be Saw ones.
This can't be all 10 Saw movies.

1239
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,000
That's kind of what I was gonna
do, Mike.

1240
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,960
Yeah.
I know, yeah.

1241
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,840
And then all the hell raisers
that came out.

1242
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,360
Yes.
That is it listeners.

1243
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,000
All right.
We hope you have enjoyed this

1244
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,920
episode.
We got loose, we cut it short.

1245
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:38,600
Kind of fun.
Yeah.

1246
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,680
Did we talk about this movie at
all?

1247
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,560
Maybe.
We did.

1248
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,280
We sure did.
We said all types of things.

1249
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,120
Sure we did.
All right, I'm going to go fire

1250
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,600
up the BBQ.
All right, have.

1251
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,440
A great one everywhere.