300TH EPISODE SPECTACULAR THE 25 BEST HORROR MOVIES OF THE 21ST CENTURY (SO FAR)

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Hello everyone and welcome to
the pod and the Pendulum.

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None.
I'm Mike Snoonian and we are

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typically the show that covers
all the horror franchises one

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movie and one episode at a time.
Except this time we are doing

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something very special as we hit
episode #300 we are going to

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have a countdown of the best 25
horror movies of the 21st

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century so far.
Now this is not an undertaking I

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would ever take on by myself.
So we have just a just about an

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all hands on deck meeting this
week.

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We only have one Co host who
unfortunately couldn't make it.

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So let's do some introductions
up first.

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She is the author of Millennial
Nasties, a book about all the

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extreme horror and trends of the
first decade of the century.

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So this episode is right up her
alley, it's Miss Ari Hellraiser.

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Ari, how are we?
So good.

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I've been so excited for this
episode ever since we decided to

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do it.
I'm so glad you're excited.

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I am so glad everybody was on
board with this.

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This is fills my heart with joy.
You haven't read his words on

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sites like Bloody Disgusting and
Manor Vellum.

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He is the host of the upcoming
podcast Holy Terrors, which

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focuses on themes of religion
and horror.

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He probably has two or three
books in the works as well, Mr.

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Brian Kuiper.
Brian, how are we doing?

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Yeah, one of these days I'm
actually gonna write them.

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That will be that.
Yeah.

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That's gonna be something.
Yeah, I, I know.

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I've I've got piles of books
ready, research ready to go

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here.
Excellent.

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She is the host of The Bodies of
Horror Podcasts, which just

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celebrated its own milestone
with episode #100 Welcome our

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resident Franklin apologist,
Miss Nicole Goebel.

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Nicole, how are we?
We are doing great.

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I'm excited to be here and talk
through this massive, massive

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list.
Everybody has packed their

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lunch, everybody has packed a
brown bag today, although I'm

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not sure what is in those brown
bags but.

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Straight liquor.
It's Lunchable is Lunchables and

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fruit roll.
UPS Fava.

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Beans.
I've never heard pronounced that

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way.
Well, Speaking of packages,

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taking time from packing up all
his belongings before he moves

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halfway across the country, it's
the host of the Spectre Cinema

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Club as well as the Tainted Love
podcast.

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Devon Taylor, you're on tap.
How are we this morning?

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Hello, hello.
I'm doing fantastic in a very

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empty room.
This is my literally my, the

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last thing I'm recording in LA
before I head back to the

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Midwest.
And yeah, I love lists.

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I'm here.
We're I'm, I'm stoked.

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I love lists.
Well we wouldn't have this list

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if it wasn't for our next Co
host.

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He is the man responsible for
collating all of this data with

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literally the best looking
spreadsheet I have ever seen in

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my life.
Like a spreadsheet so beautiful

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I wanted to cat call it, take it
on a date, buy it dinner and

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then bring it home and throw
some Al Green on the stereo.

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Like that's how beautiful the
spreadsheet.

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Was you treat her with respect,
Mike.

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I would absolutely.
I would ask for the.

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That's my baby you're talking
about there.

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Doing Anything but.
He is the host of the

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Disenfranchised podcast as well
as well's You, a new show that

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covers the life and works of Mr.
Orson Welles.

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Steven Chewy, Walrus Foxworthy,
Welcome back.

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Always a pleasure to be here
Mike.

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I will echo the sentiments of
all of my fellow Co host.

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I have been so excited for this
and like Ari, I have packed up a

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sack lunch full of alcohol, so
we're going to have a great

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time.
I am the only dry 1 here.

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I am the only one.
Should I send my 15 year old to

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the paki to see if she can?
Absolutely.

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Let's see what could go wrong.
For our UK listeners, that means

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packaged liquor store.
Yes, it does.

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Does it mean something different
in the UK it.

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Does it's very really bad?
Yes, thanks, Ari.

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Yes, please.
Let's let's inhibit those those

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texts that are we know are
coming and tweets wait.

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Well, we have one more returning
to the big chair for one night

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only.
She is the person who literally

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kept this show afloat for a
year, and it's just an all

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goddamn delight to work with.
I do not know why that got

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bleeped out of my notes, but
talk to this.

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Lindsay Travis, welcome back for
this show.

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Hello.
What a warm welcome I am.

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So Oh my gosh, you're giving me
far too much credit.

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But also thank you.
And it's so nice to be back.

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And this is a very nice,
convenient catch up for me to

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hear what everybody's been up
to.

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It is last.
Year.

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So yeah, no, it's great.
I'm like, I got follow up

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questions.
Devon, where you live in?

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I want to hear about these
books.

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I got a lot.
I got, you know, I got a lot of

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water for later.
Yeah.

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We got time, Devon.
Where are you living?

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Address where?
Do you?

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Yeah.
Tell me your Yeah.

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In the chat I'll drop you my
social real quick.

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Great.
Thank you.

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I've been waiting.
For you have a key code to your

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front door.
If you just want to leave it,

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that'd be cool, you could say
that.

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I got you covered.
All of it, All of it.

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It'll be on the record for
everybody.

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Great.
Are there any crimes you want to

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admit to that you've committed?
Over.

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Sure.
Yeah, while we're here.

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No, I already admitted to all my
crimes in earlier episodes.

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Long time listeners of the pod
will already know that.

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And thank you for being with us
for so many episodes.

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We have we have 300 episodes
worth of bits to pay off all in

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this episode.
Speaking of which, I do want to

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call out, Did you know this is a
special occasion because Brian

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changed into a new colored
tracksuit for this?

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Yeah.
So Brian, solid gold tracksuit

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and fly.
Only the best for episode 300

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that's.
Right.

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He has a stack of materials he's
going to pull out for.

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This is over well, super quick.
I'm just going to get a wee bit

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of housekeeping out of the way.
So for our long time listeners,

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thank you so much for being
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Does it get to like what

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You guys really fell off.

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That was when I first started
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Right around that time.
About 100 episodes now I think.

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That's true.
I have it at this point.

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Shoot suits it really.
It really does.

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That's very one of these days.
He might have enough to buy a

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gold chain to go with it too.
That would be incredible.

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That would be absolutely great.
OK, I am going to try to keep.

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It's a long story, Lindsay.
You're you're kind of you're

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kind of looking like, what are
they talking about?

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That's like, that's one of our
greats running gags.

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Yeah.
We just have bits.

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Yeah, sorry.
We have Nicole, who throws

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people down the Georgetown
stairs near The Exorcist.

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Home with impunity.
Tourists Ari and Devon are

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trying to slowly drive me mad
with some of their movie

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choices.
Yes.

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Trying and succeeding.
That's not even a bit, that's

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just true.
I just like really like to watch

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Mike squirm.
Yeah, which is easy.

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All right, I want to along with
us, along with everybody on the

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show who voted for this top 25.
We did reach out to a number of

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past guests and friends.
We want to thank you.

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Also want to thank Jessica Scott
who couldn't be with us today,

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but like she also voted as part
of the Paden Pendulum panel.

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So we want to thank Sarah Stubbs
from Geeks Who Eat and Final

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Girls Feast.
We want to thank Joe Lipset from

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Horror Queers and the anatomy of
the Scream horror podcast

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network, Canal of Sinister
Cinema, Alex Pak DeLuca, horror

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writer who'll be guesting on the
show soon.

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Kat Hughes, who's a podcaster
with shows like Movies with

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Mummy, All of Us Are Lost in
Savage Garden.

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Her words have also appeared at
Dred Central.

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Richard Newby, who's been a
writer at Fangoria Vulture and

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is the author of We Make
Monsters Here.

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Rocco Thompson of Room Morgue.
Amber Tea who writes for

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Fangoria.
Garrett McDowell, Devons Co host

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Inspector Cinema Club, Zoe Rose
Smith, former editor in chief

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over at Ghouls Magazine, as well
as Devon's Co host at Tainted

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Love Tony Potnenza, who is a
writer for a movie.

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Tori Potenza Tori, not Tony.
Oh, my goodness, I need to make

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this font bigger.
Don't turn 50.

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Mae Schultz over at Pleasers and
punishes pod and Jay Krieger

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from the Safe Room POD.
All right.

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I've assumed Mike's script
supervisor role because he is

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Ron Burgundy and will read the
teleprompter word for word.

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I missed one.
That's the one mistake I missed.

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You did clean up a good fair
bit, Devon.

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I use text to speech a lot and I
figure you guys can read Mike's

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speak at this point so.
I mean, we can.

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But defense the.
Translation doesn't know what

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you mean.
Exactly, it's not.

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It's not really also a useful
resume skill either.

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Right, I am never working for
any web but I'm not doing.

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It even though you are a public
figure now, not everyone knows

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who you are.
Public figure you found that?

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I don't know how that came up.
All right, so Steven, I want to

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again say thank you so much for
all the hard work you put in.

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Do you want to give like before
Nicole reads off?

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Like what films receive votes
and such a little bit of like,

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Here's how this came together.
I love collating data.

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It's one of my favorite things
to do.

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It relaxes me because I am a
nerd.

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So I quickly volunteered when
the opportunity came up to put

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information into a spreadsheet.
So all of the people whose names

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you've just heard sent me lists
through one of the other Co

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hosts here.
And once received, I just

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plugged them in, assigning a
number ranking to every film.

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If a film was ranked it the
number one spot, it received 21

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points.
If it was ranked at the number

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25 spot, it received one point,
etcetera.

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And so after plugging all of
those in, we totalled all of

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those numbers.
Again, spreadsheets make that

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very easy.
And the top 25 vote getters

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across all of the films, of
which there were I think a total

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of close to 250 total films up
for consideration.

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Amongst all of the lists
received.

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We managed to pull the top 10%,
the 25 for our list today.

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Excellent.
Thank you so much, Nicole.

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Yes.
So let's get cracking on some

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numbers and I think this is
very, very interesting.

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So let's let's kind of map out
how the calculations came

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together.
There were a total of 224 movies

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received that received votes for
the top 25.

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And so let's talk a little bit
about the top 25 by year because

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remember we are talking about in
the last century.

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So 2 movies for the years 2002,
2015, 2016, 2019 and 2024.

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One movie for 2000, 2001, 2004,
2005, 2008, 2010, 2014, 2017,

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2018, 2020-2021, 2022-2023 and
2025 this year.

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So people were were jumping at
the bit to get a film in that

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has been recently released,
which I think is exciting.

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There were 16 stand alone movies
and I believe that is just

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movies that were submitted that
no one else had.

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Oh, I mean by that is not part
of a franchise.

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I'm sorry.
Got it.

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And so how did we all hear
factor into these numbers and

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especially as we get into the
final rankings?

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So Devon, 12 films made.
The People's Champ.

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Yes, you know, I mean, yeah, I'm
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for this one, I was.
I had certain movies I knew for

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sure would not make it, so I was
like, I'm not going to waste my

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time putting Neon Demon on the
list even though that's my

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favorite movie.
But I was like, I'm not going to

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waste my time.
So I maybe went a little more

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like mind games and like numbers
wise as to like how this was all

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going to shake out.
Excellent.

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Well, now that I know it's a
competition, I want to resubmit.

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Yeah, we have time for that.
Absolutely, just just let me

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know ASAP and.
This is something I I can win.

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I'm going to do it differently.
There's.

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No winner.
We're all winners on this show.

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All of a sudden, all of this Sir
Devon's a winner.

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I'm just saying like, OK, keep
going.

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All right, Ari.
Good job Devon, you deserve it.

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Yes, you'll get a cake.
Ari, you have 8 on the final

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list.
Lindsay, you have 8 on the final

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list.
I bring up the rear with only

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four, our good Co leader here
with the data.

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Chewie's got 7, Brian has 8 and
Mike, our fearless leader, gets

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a respectable second place with
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Which shocked me.
I was stunned that I had that

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many.
OK, so before we get to our top

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25 movies, I figured that's not
enough to talk about.

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Like why not make this even more
complicated and longer is that

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everybody has at least like one
movie you know that they really

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love and that didn't make the
list.

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So why don't we take like
exactly 1 minute?

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And I'm giving that note to
myself and Devon to take one

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minute exactly, but mostly for
myself to say, talk about one

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film that didn't make the list.
That's your wild card pick.

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And Devon, since I just called
you out, which was really rude

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to me to be quite honest, but.
You know, I'm the, we know I'm

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like the second leading yapper.
That's OK.

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That's OK.
You're up.

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But for me, because the way I
approach this list was not only

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my favorites, but what I thought
was like the most important

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horror movies of the century.
And we have 1 of this directors

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other films on the list.
But I want to shout out Mother

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because the conversation around
that movie was just so fun.

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Just so many varying opinions
and it really highlights why I

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love horror.
Like, I get if people hate that

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movie, but like also like, I'm
just so glad it happened to

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everybody and we had such a
great time talking about it.

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Yeah, I've never.
They've seen someone take their,

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like, Oscar award, like cachet
and like, flush it all away so

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quickly.
They're like, let's do that.

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And it's love it for it.
Like, that's not an insult.

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Nicole, how about yourself?
What was your wild card?

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It was The Purge.
It is the best franchise to come

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out of the.
I stand by this.

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I have argued this repeatedly
and it's amazing.

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I think again, I, I really like
what the bomb said about, you

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know, films that are very
consequential in a way.

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And I think that the Purge
franchise in general does that.

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I think if you are following the
trajectory of the films, it's

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very especially today, living in
DC.

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As we lived through it.
Yeah, it's horrifying.

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So nothing like watching
election year on little January

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6th.
So yeah, I've got to put that in

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there, yeah.
I want to say excellent, but

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also kind of horrifying that The
Purge is now a documentary.

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Brian, how about yourself?
Listeners can go back and listen

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to our coverage of the whole
Purge franchise.

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That's yes, they can, yeah.
This was a really hard choice

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for me to pick just one, so I
going to stay on brand and go

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with Lucky Mckees May from 2004,
which is the most unique version

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of Frankenstein in a long time.
It's it's really fantastic and I

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just rewatched it recently and
it really holds up.

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It's, I think, one of the very
best performances of the century

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in a horror film in Angela
Bettis as May and it, it's a

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banger.
It really went well.

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You know, rewatching it, I was
like, man, this movie's so good.

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Excellent, Lindsay, how about
yourself?

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OK, I didn't want to eat into
your minute, Nicole, but I was

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elated to see that you had
picked the Purge because that

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might have been my pick.
So I was like, OK, great, that

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helps me out because yeah, it's
amazing.

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I am going to go with The Guest,
which is one of my all time

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favorite movies of all time,
which is a nice way for using

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that.
I don't know, it's kind of more

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like action metal horror,
comedy, but I still think it's

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horror.
And I think why that movie is so

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special to me, especially for a
lot of reasons.

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But I feel like there's a
handful of times in my life

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where I've gone to a movie, seen
it and like immediately been

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like, I am going to watch this
movie 100 times, never stop

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talking about it.
I'm going to make everybody else

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watch it and like, it's going to
be a big part of my personality

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forever.
And I felt that right away.

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It was a Midnight Madness
screening at TIFF.

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I brought my friend who's like,
not into horror, but I was like,

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just come.
I don't want to go alone.

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I heard this one's good.
And it was like just like that

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instant.
We were both obsessed with it

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immediately and I couldn't wait
to tell my friends.

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Dan Stevens playing weirdly
against type, which I don't even

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know if we knew that yet because
we didn't really know enough

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about him at that point.
And it's funny.

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It's Terminator 2 E, it's
Halloweeny and I just love it.

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And I could talk about it for
much longer than one minute, but

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I will.
It is a great film.

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It is such a great film.
So that's one that could have

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easily made our easily made the
top 25.

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Are you?
You're in the top 25 in

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everybody's hearts.
But what was your wild card

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pick?
Well, listeners, my wild card

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pick is Terrifier too, which
tells you it's not on the list.

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You can go back and listen to
all our Terrifier coverage to

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hear my extended thoughts on
this.

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But when I was making my list, I
was trying to do a mix of my

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favorite and important.
And I think that regardless of

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what you think of it, Terrifier
2 is really, really important

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modern horror movie.
And it's the movie that made

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people sit up and take notice of
the Terrifier franchise.

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Think.
Art the Clown is going to lead

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us into more fun, gory horror
for the next decade or so, and

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so I think that is a marker of a
horror trend that will be really

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important.
Plus I love it and it's fun and

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I am basically constantly
watching it just like picking up

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where I last left off.
Excellent.

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I think it made a lot of our top
10's the year it came out, so it

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was a little surprise not to see
it here, but it was, you know,

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it's an excellent pick.
All right, Steven, how about

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yourself?
I'm also going to be very on

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brand with this pic and choose
David Lynch's Mulholland Dr.

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which is again another of my
favorite movies of all time.

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I absolutely adore that movie.
It is such a complete mind fuck

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in the best possible way.
I absolutely adore every frame

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of that film.
Do I understand it?

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Hell no.
But do I love it?

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Fucking A.
And it also has the single

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scariest scene I think that has
ever been committed to film.

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If you know about the lady
behind the dumpster, then you

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already know it is.
And it's all in the way that

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Lynch films that thing.
And I think it is brilliant.

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I think it is genius.
And I I weep daily that it is

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not on the top 20.
Five.

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OK, I have.
This is my confession.

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Can I give my confession real
quick?

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I'm sorry, Lindsay, I just
jumped out.

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No.
OK, this was my #1 until I took

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it off the list entirely.
Wow.

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Because I was like, man, I know
this.

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I love this movie.
I think it's the best movie of

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the century so far.
But is it a horror movie?

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What's my question?
And I decided that it was not

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for me.
It's a David Lynch movie.

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It's a David Lynch movie, and
David Lynch transcends genre.

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So yeah, sorry, that's my.
Chewy, how many points was it

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off by?
If if it would have gotten

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Brian's points, would have made
the list.

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Totally 2.
I don't think it would have made

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it I.
Still, it still wouldn't have

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made it, but it would have
gotten a lot closer.

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Yeah, so.
But this is a grudge.

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This is a betrayal, Brian.
I don't know that I will forget.

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Well, I if it's.
Any.

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This is like at WrestleMania
when we kick off a new grudge.

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Sorry.
Very.

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Good.
This is my heel turn.

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Yeah.
Yes, this.

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Is Brian.
Also for your pot and pendulum

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bingo card are your mic bring up
wrestling.

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That's true.
Any consolation I should?

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Have made a Naomi Watts for us.
Maybe I'll do it before I can.

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I can't.
Yes.

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Naomi Watts performance was just
rated like the top performance

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of the 21st century by the
Ringer staff and their. 100%.

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Beat out like Daniel Day, Lewis
and And There Will Be Blood,

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Javier Bardem and old No
Country.

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No country for old men.
So like it was rated the best

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performance of the century so
far in any company there.

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But not good enough for us,
David Lynch.

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So hit the bricks.
I think he already did that,

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Mike.
Jeez.

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Yikes.
So it's our fault.

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So.
Not in the year 2025.

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My pick that didn't make this
was my number one movie.

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Brad Anderson session 9.
I fucking love this movie so

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much.
I just rewatch it again last

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night.
It was our family movie night

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and that's what we picked.
Filmed on location at the

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abandoned Danvers State mental
hospital.

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They did nothing to dress it up.
It was like here you go and just

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have a chair in the middle of
the hallway.

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And that is and if it's own,
terrifying.

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This movie still creeps me out
two decades later.

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Those session tapes are
incredible and so unnerving and

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it has the best exit line in a
movie ever.

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Like we I live in the weak and
wounded.

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It still gets under my skin.
So session 9 is my wild card

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pick.
So that is it.

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Those are the ones you know
won't be on here, but we wanted

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to give a shout out to those so
can.

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I say one thing before we do it.
Absolutely.

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OK, so listeners, I would
implore you right now to pause,

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get a pen and paper, especially
if you're driving a car.

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Maybe shut your eyes even to
think.

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But now you know some of the
movies that aren't going to be

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on the list.
So what do you think is going to

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be on the list and how many do
you get right?

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Tell us in the comments and
write down your list and then

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come back and press play.
Fair enough.

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Ari was born to be a podcast.
She's a pro, folks.

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I was just over here like, OK.
No, I mean I have a thing, if

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not a shill.
No, that's what makes you

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perfect for podcasting, Ari.
Except like you'll notice at the

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end when we do plugs, there's
something Ari always forgets to

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plug her own.
Very true.

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Nicole, what's your question?
Save me.

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OK, so my question is as we're.
Who are you people?

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No, as we're going through this,
because now we're getting into

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the top 25 all based on the
rankings, yeah, Are we going to

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have available are individual
lists for folks to peruse?

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I think I can put that together
via POD and pendulum.com, I

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think.
We can do mine's on letterbox,

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yeah.
We could easily do that and we

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can direct listeners to that
through the show notes because

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there is like a A blog feature
there.

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So we could easily do that or we
could post like Steven did

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letterbox lists or we can make
T-shirts and we could sell

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T-shirts with the rankings on
there.

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So we could do an or sky
writing, lost art balloon, hot

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air balloons.
But there's a number of options

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for folks to get our our list.
So, but that is a good question.

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Yeah, absolutely, because there
are eclectic lists.

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I mean you saw like none of us
got more than half the titles on

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there.
I think all of it.

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And I think that speaks to
honestly, this shows biggest

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strength is all of us come at
horror from different

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perspectives.
Like Ari is our resident, like

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Allison's guru.
And I would say like the senior

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horror, Devon has his like own
point of view where he likes a

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lot of the esoteric.
Brian, it's classic Steven

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Moore, the newbie Nicole, the
lens you and I look at in terms

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of the work we do in the field.
And I know I'm more of an indie

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horror guy.
Like that is the strength of the

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show.
It's not 2 white neckbeards just

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going why isn't there more gore?
And why aren't there more like

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bare breasted women?
Like if it doesn't have that, we

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don't care.
So and.

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Mike, you put that together.
Mikey.