FINAL DESTINATIONS BLOODLINES

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Let me tell you something about
marriage, people.

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It's a.
Trap.

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Hello everyone and welcome to
the pod and the Pendulum.

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We are the horror podcast that
covers all of the franchises,

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one movie and one episode at a
time.

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And right now we're taking a
little detour as we kind of head

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in between franchises here
because we had a gap like with

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we covered Final Destination,
think like 2020 or 2021.

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And since then there's been a
new entry with Final Destination

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Bloodlines.
We thought what better time than

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to add to the Canon and talk
about this phenom like it's

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crossed over 250 million
worldwide.

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It's a big hit.
We could use the clicks.

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So it is time to talk
Bloodlines.

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I am not alone.
I'm joined by a trio of Co hosts

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today.
Up first, it's been a little bit

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from the Disenfranchised
podcast.

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Mr. Steven Chewy Walrus.
Steven, how are we?

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Doing great, Mike, thank you so
much for having me.

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It's it's I, I just hope I can
make it through this without

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something shorting out and or
getting impaled really.

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Yeah, if we see things start
falling behind you in like a

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mug's trap sort of way, we will
try our best to warn you.

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Thank you.
I appreciate that.

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Also joining us this week
celebrating the upcoming Last

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week of School from Bloody
Disgusting Manor Vellum and the

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soon to be released of religious
themed or religious horror theme

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podcast, I believe Holy Terrors.
That's Brian Kiper.

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How are we?
Great to be back.

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Always like to talk Death's
design with y'all.

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Yep.
Also on board joining at the

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very last second, which I gotta
say is a bold move when you're

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doing a Final Destination movie
like Things Can Happen from the

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Tainted Love podcast, Inspector
Cinema Club, Mr. Devon Taylor.

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Devon, what's up?
Hello.

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Hello.
Yeah, I don't know what

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happened.
I got out of bed and then I

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slipped on a on a Hot Wheels,
which then led me into my

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closet.
And then I bounced off of the

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hangers and then my headphone
wires wrapped around my throat.

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And then it was, I guess I was,
I guess I was, I was like, all

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right, I guess I'm potting
today.

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All right, and we're in well
before we give our initial

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thoughts on this movie, a little
bit of housekeeping.

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I keep forgetting to do this at
the top of the show, and it does

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help.
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I've really offended A listener

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unwarranted.
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weren't let's put it this way,
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they were legit criticisms.
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Fun of your voice, like most of
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Not like that one review we got,
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thing I hate about this show is
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And I said this the other night
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I'll say it to Brian and Steven
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You guys have made me redundant.
It's one of the best shows we've

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So.
If like, we would have done it

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without you, Mike, like like we
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it without you kind of
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Hey, Mike, there's got to be,
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a headset as as me and as me and
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in the movie Spy, every every
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So you still played your part in
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I wasn't around either.
I'm just, I'm just also going to

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fan the flames on it.
It is.

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Legit one of the best episodes
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Seinfeld's horrible no I

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listeners.
What are you talking?

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About Wes Wes Anderson has a 4K
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cinephiles.
I'm like, and I'm, you know,

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like with some exceptions, like
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So I'm like guys, Wes Anderson
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that was out in theater.
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ranking episode. 2026's patron
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within 30 seconds, Arielle and
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worry, we got this.
We're going to shit on Mike's

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face, right?
Now and.

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They said tap me in for.
A second Devon is now at the

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point where my take on trailers
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Wishmaster 4 episode, you'll get
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All right, folks.
We're we're the heist team

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that's about to take out the the
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going on with the pod now.
But we all get along.

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It was just like, it tickled me.
I'm like, yeah, of course.

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Let's just like why?
Why try just part of the

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pendulum?
Why try Coming to AT Shirt our

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initial thoughts on bloodlines.
Steven, we haven't heard from

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you in quite a while, so why
don't you jump in?

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Yeah, thank.
I I saw this movie with my

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partner just a couple weeks ago.
We just decided to make a day of

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it and go see a movie and we
decided on bloodlines.

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That was the one we agreed on.
And God, that movie was so much

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fun.
I had I it has everything that I

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love about the franchise in at
the elaborate Rube Goldberg

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death scenes and you know, the
the the the fake out endings,

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like all the all the all the
hallmarks are there.

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But then they kind of ratchet
and amp up so much of the

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tension in really fun and
interesting ways and play with

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the form and create really
retroactively A deeper lore for

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the entire franchise that is
really fun and really engaging.

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And I particularly that opening,
that opening scene is just

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absolutely breathtaking.
Such an incredible piece of, of

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achievement.
Yeah, no, I had a lot of fun

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with it.
And as soon as I finished it,

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I'm like, I, I think this might
be my favorite one in the

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franchise.
Not to to spoil anything, but I

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think this takes the number one
spot away from Final Destination

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5 for me.
OK, how?

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How much of a fan of the series
as a whole are you?

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I'm very middling on, on most of
the series.

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Honestly.
I, I think the highest rated one

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prior to this was like 3.
So like, I, I like them, I think

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they're fun.
They're like we were talking

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about before and about our
rankings and what they mean.

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Like 3 is a, is a good movie.
I think the worst one with a

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bullet is #4AD Final
Destination.

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That one's just unforgivable.
But the other?

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All the other ones I have a good
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Yeah, Elizabeth, Mary Winstead
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like she's doing the shoulder
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She's working the traps because
like she is carrying Part 3 on

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her back.
Like she is doing some work.

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Brian, how about yourself?
Well, I saw this with my son

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that opening weekend and he this
is one of his favorite

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franchises and I like it a lot.
I always had a lot of fun with

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it.
I knew he would too, which is

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why I suggested it back in the
day.

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But we left the theater and it's
like, I think that's the best 1.

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And I was like, I don't know if
it's my favorite, but it's up

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there.
It's a lot of fun.

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I love that death is a real Dick
in this one.

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I mean, just they this movie
really understands that all of

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this is supposed to be funny.
I I think that's one of the

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things I really liked about it's
like everything sets up.

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It's almost like a Marx Brothers
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And then you know a piano falls
on someone and it and you laugh

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and you can't help but laugh
you.

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Applaud.
Yeah.

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Versus a piece of shit.
Exactly.

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And so I think that this one, I
liked it so much as I've been as

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far as comic horror goes.
I mean, this sort of shot way

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up.
And I also love a movie that

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takes place in fake Seattle.
A lot of movies take place in

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fake Seattle lately.
Megan takes place in fake

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Seattle, Malignant, all kinds of
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If you actually live in Seattle,
you know it's not Seattle, but

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you know, hard eyes.
Oh my gosh, that one.

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Well, it's like we.
Hard eyes took me out of it

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because it was so definitely not
Seattle.

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If you go to the.
Canadian Seattle.

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That's.
Why?

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Well, there were palm trees.
So it was like either Australian

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or LA Seattle.
So there are no palm trees

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around here guys, sorry.
The myth has been shattered.

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Yeah, sorry, the airport
sequence in in Hard Eyes was was

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hilarious to me.
But anyway, so I I do love the

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sort of fake Space Needle thing
at the beginning.

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It's a lot of fun.
And that's I mean that rivals

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too for one of the best openings
As for my money at least.

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Yeah, Devon, how about yourself?
Yeah, I'm a big fan of this

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franchise.
I'll save, you know, some of my

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overall franchise thoughts for
next week's episode, obviously,

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but what I'll say is, is is so
fascinating.

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That took so long for another
one to be made because I mean,

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everybody's been talking about
like, Oh my God, this one's so

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profitable.
They're all profitable.

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Like this entire like not a
single one is not made money.

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So it's like they've all made
like really good margins back

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and like again, like it's it.
The premise is so clean cut that

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it's like they can literally do
these movies forever.

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Like and, and like, like it's
one of those if once the

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formula, once you got it and it
didn't, like, if it ain't broke,

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don't fix it.
Like it is one of those things

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that like I'm, I'm a like, I
know it's like we we talk about

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cliches and tropes and stuff.
I'm like, hey, look, if the, if

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the formula's good, keep it
going.

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Like I'm I'm, I'm in, I'll, I'll
keep doing it, you know.

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And so that's kind of how I feel
about these movies.

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And I was very excited for this
entry.

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It did, I think just the the
long wait, my initial reaction,

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I was a little bit underwhelmed
by it.

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I've softened a bit, but I'll
still say it's in the lower half

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of my ranking list as of now
'cause it's, I don't know, it's

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like it does some really, for
every really good thing this

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movie does, it does something
that really frustrates or annoys

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me.
So it's like kind of just like

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I, I was having like a little
bit of whiplash the whole time I

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was watching 'cause I was like,
OK, we have a few like really

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good classic set pieces like
using the tension and some of

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the kills and things like that,
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But then we also get, I don't
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protagonist and very wonky
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know, So I don't know, I I I
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don't love it as at least not as
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series, and I don't rank them
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well, just because of, again,
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going to get.
And this certainly is a Final

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Destination movie.
Like, I definitely can't say

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it's not.
So yeah, I think there's some

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interesting ideas in here.
I think there's some really

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annoying, boring stuff in this
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But hey, it, it, it is at the
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Destination movie.
And I'm happy that it's back.

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And hopefully again we get a,
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movie every two years for the
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That'd be nice.
This should go 10.

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You know, like if any series is
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should.
I think Devon and I are gonna

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mostly agree because a lot of
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they're like the pacing, some of
the wonky things they do and

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like it Dings it a bit, Although
I think I'm a bit more forgiving

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overall.
Like if it's not at the top of

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my rankings, which I don't think
it is, like it's near like I

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really enjoyed this.
And I think part of it was just

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like seeing it in a pack theater
in like 4 DI masks, like

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actually doing that and just
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sitting with an audience or
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go, oh, this is the tone we're
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And then everybody being in
agreement and going for that

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ride, like definitely helped
out.

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I like love this franchise.
Like I've said this when we were

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covering the first five movies.
She can go back in through the

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archives and listen to that.
I think this is the best

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franchise of the early odds like
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It is the best, most consistent
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I know that, you know, I'm in
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folks would say Saw and I have a
greater appreciation for that

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series after covering it.
But to me, Final Destinations is

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like the Five Guys burger of a
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Like it's, you know what you're
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It's so consistent across the
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Like even the worst one in the
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has like a really fun opening
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For me, these are particularly
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I mean, I could marathon these.
I tried to marathon saw because

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I was a little behind and I
wanted to catch up with you

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guys.
I got to three and I was just

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like, I was feeling sick to my
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can't.
The all the green and light just

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made me want to queue after a
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Sorry, Ariel, I love you.
You're saying all these things

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like they're bad things, Brian,
Like the Green don't want.

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Each I, that's what I'm here
for.

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I know I, I and The thing is my
life is saw six right now

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because my wife is going through
this situation where we're,

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where we're dealing with an
insurance company and you know,

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there's like court battles and
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So I'm just like, you know, I
feel like watching Saw six every

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day right now, but the but if
I'm going to have a good time

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with an early odds horror
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final destination.
Yeah, I did start, like after

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watching this a second time in
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weekend.
Like I rewatched the first 3.

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So I just 'cause we're going to
rank, do a rankings episode next

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week.
So I'm like, all right, I want

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to rewatch the whole series and
I just have to get to 4 and five

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again.
Like for the most part, like I

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definitely enjoyed this.
And there are some things like

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the pacing is weird.
Like it points, it feels very

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rushed.
Like the we'll talk about like 1

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scene in particular where I'm
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right speed 'cause it.
Yeah, it's like.

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Speed up in some ways like.
They're it's like it.

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Rushed through so much
exposition.

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It really takes its time with
like the opening set piece and

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then there's like 25 minutes of
just like kind of nothing

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happening.
And then we get like a string of

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like set pieces.
And then then it's like slows

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down again for the finale.
And then it's like, wait, what?

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What, what, what are we kind of
doing here?

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But, but, but I totally agree
what you guys were saying

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though, like, 'cause yeah,
certain things you can binge and

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it like, you know, gets to you a
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I'm in the works of a meme right
now from what Brian was talking

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about and some references
earlier in this episode.

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But I I did the the five final
destination movies in a day for

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my birthday a few years ago.
I like subjected like a few of

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my friends, like what are we
doing for your birthday?

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I'm like, I'm like, oh ho ho.
I was like, be ready bright and

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early.
We're watching all of them

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today.
And it was a it was a fantastic

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time.
Like you can literally watch.

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You can.
Yeah, it's a it's a really great

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marathon for sure.
But yeah, I don't know, you

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know, can we start with the
bloodlines subtitle 'cause I

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feel like that's very important.
I.

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Have a little bit yeah, well
let's I have a little bit of the

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background overall so maybe we.
Think Oh yeah, we do do that.

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I forgot.
We don't have a shot because

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this is like so new, like I
don't have a ton.

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And I'll piggyback off like what
Devon said to start in that like

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the series have been doormat
since 2011 with part five kind

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of closing the loop on the
franchise.

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Like if you've seen part 5, you
kind of know what we're saying

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there.
And like Devon said, it was like

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so profitable.
Like adding up the 1st 5 movies,

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they made about 680 million
worldwide.

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None of them cost more than 40
million to make.

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So you had anywhere from like 23
to 40 million.

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So everything is like a three to
five times multiplier.

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And on top of that, I remember
this series being huge on DVD

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like New Line Cinema.
Oh.

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Yes, Oh my God, like I know
'cause they can.

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Bundle them again every time a
new film came out.

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Yeah, yeah.
The triple feature.

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The quadruple feature.
I have it as AI have the first

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four on a Blu-ray set where it's
literally you just stack them on

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top of one another.
So I'm sure they won't work for

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too long.
But like I just remember like

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watching the first one on
Blu-ray They would like new line

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would like everything was
treated like a criterion or

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scream factory disc like special
edition back then.

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Like new line just packed
everything with special features

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so.
You know, 680 million in

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theaters and probably double
that across like home video

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sales.
So after Part 5, Tony Todd's

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like, hey, we're probably going
to do 2 more.

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They're going to be filmed
back-to-back.

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And then you Fast forward eight
years later, nothing has

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happened.
And now New Line is like shaking

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out the couch cushions.
Like what franchises do we have?

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Like if we just make 37 more
Hobbit movies, Like what is

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Peter Jackson?
The fact that New Line hasn't

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been what if we do Final
Destination, but with hobbits

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that that hasn't happened yet.
Like I'm a little bit.

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I would watch that.
There was talk at one point of

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doing a Final Destination movie
set in medieval times, like

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doing like their Army of
Darkness.

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And they were really hyped to
do.

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And I think Jeffrey Reddick and
Craig Perry had like great ideas

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for it.
And then when they crunch the

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numbers, they're like, this
would cost way more than we ever

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would do on a Final Destination
movie.

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Like it would triple the budget
to make it like period accurate

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and correct.
But Oh my God I would watch it

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in a heartbeat.
Well, I think one thing this

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movie does really well, not to
jump into movie discussion too

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early, is gives us the
opportunity for prequel films

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within the Final Destination
universe 'cause this thing, the

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opening set piece, takes place
in the 60s.

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Like we could put these things
seventies, 80s, early 90s. 70s.

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Is it 70s?
Looks like just when you think

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of the characters ages. 1968.
Really.

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OK, my bad.
OK.

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So, I mean, but we could, we
could do a disco era Final

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Destination movie.
We could do.

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'Cause it works so well for
Beetlejuice.

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I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.

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I'm not a fan of Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice just to.

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Give Steven you dream your
dream.

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Don't let Brian take away your
dreams.

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And don't let me and Ari take
away your dreams.

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I appreciate.
That so well, I people they

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wanted to bring we mentioned saw
final destination wanted to

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bring on like Patrick Melkin
Melton and Marcus Dunstan.

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The duo, like, behind, like Saw
3456, like the writing team

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behind those movies, like the
folks that made it very lore

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heavy and, you know, responsible
for some of the most successful

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entries in the franchise.
And the idea was like, they were

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going to slightly reimagine
things their entry was going to

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be centered on, like paramedics,
EMTs, first responders.

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And I think Craig Perry said in
an interview like, well, the

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idea is like, these people,
like, have tremendous sway over

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who lives and who dies.
Like they're making decisions

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right on the fly, like.
Give me that.

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Yeah, so this idea of like, how
would that muck with death a

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little bit, like choosing who
gets to live and die.

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So, like, it wouldn't be
unrecognizable, but it'd be a

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little different.
And when it came to the opening

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set piece, like Craig Perry
said, like you'll just you'll

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never look at like one of those
revolving doors the same way

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again, which I think there's
been a few times in this

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franchise, like Part 2 jumps to
mind.

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There's a little tease here.
And this one where the revolving

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door is like hinted at.
I've never felt danger going

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through like a revolving.
Door Me neither, but I've seen

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other people freak out over them
too.

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I I have seen that before and
I'm like, what are you?

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What's your deal?
My wife cannot ride down an

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escalator.
She will not.

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Ride down.
I used to be terrified of

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escalators when?
I was.

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My partner has an escalator
thing as well.

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Yeah.
OK, so it's not uncommon, but

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she will not will not do it.
So yeah, it's but the revolving

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door we can do.
Well, COVID puts the kibosh on,

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you know, doing the movie from
2019-2020.

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And like Jeffrey Reddick, the
series creator, like he's

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promoting his directing debut
Don't Look Back and talking

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about like why Final Destination
wasn't going forward.

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And he's like very frank.
He's like, we can't do them on a

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Blumhouse scale.
Like we're not crazy expensive,

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but you can't do like the single
set piece, small cast small, you

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know, like we have like these
big opening action set pieces.

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So you know, we need to have a
lot of people on set in order to

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do that.
And obviously 2020-2021, that

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wasn't going to happen.
And honestly, like I applaud the

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restraint in that, you know,
like rather than like, you know,

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being like, no, we can make it
work for 8 million.

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It's like, no, you can't make.
This work for 8 million or you

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just like we'll go somewhere
with no COVID restrictions and

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you have like final destination
the documentary when 40 people

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died or came down with
significant health problems on

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this onset.
Kind of doing a Rube Goldberg

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esque bounce from person to
person.

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You just would see like coughing
particles floating through the

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air.
All the set pieces are on a

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microscopic level.
Somewhat on Blue Ski is so mad

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at making jokes about this,
right?

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Now.
They're actually, I mean, this

447
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,640
is a little bit off the subject,
but have you ever heard of the

448
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,400
movie The Conqueror with John
Wayne as Genghis Khan?

449
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,160
Well.
Oh my God, no.

450
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,080
They they yeah, it's it's
generally considered one of the

451
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,520
worst movies ever made.
But here's what happened.

452
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:52,600
They they, they the worst part
of it all as real life, they

453
00:25:52,640 --> 00:26:01,440
shipped all this irradiated sand
from like the testing site where

454
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,720
the original atom bomb had been
tested and they moved it.

455
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,800
And like so many people,
including John Wayne, got cancer

456
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,440
and died working on that movie
that it's like there's a there's

457
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,320
actually a recent documentary
about it, but I've.

458
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,280
Watched the documentary.
Yeah, yeah, that's, oh, that's I

459
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,000
have no intention of ever
watching the actual movie, but

460
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,560
I.
When you think your movie's bad,

461
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,120
Oh, no one.
Killed its cast.

462
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,880
It killed its cast and crew,
Yeah.

463
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,520
So yeah, they 'cause they've
needed the sets to match, so

464
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,640
they brought in this sand from
from the Nevada desert.

465
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,360
Sure.
Yeah, sure, why not?

466
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Anyway, why?
Not so it happens.

467
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240
Crazy, crazy shit happens in
Hollywood all the time.

468
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,560
That's that's what we would call
not good.

469
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,360
That's a big.
Oopsie.

470
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,000
That's a big oopsie.
Yeah, well.

471
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,640
For sure Not An Oopsie was
bringing on producer John Watts.

472
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,920
Like he directed the last three
Spider Man films, which at the

473
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,120
time, like his big thing was
he'd done 500 Days of Summer, a

474
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:19,200
little ROM com, like a little
early 2000s ROM com.

475
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,640
Then he would go on to like huge
acclaim or in box office, you

476
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,000
know, victories with like the
three Spider Man films.

477
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,560
So he has a pitch for a story.
I think he drops out of like the

478
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,480
storytelling process pretty
quick, but he stays on as a

479
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,080
producer.
The script is then penned by

480
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,560
Laurie Evans Taylor and Guy
Buseik, who one of the the

481
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,840
creative partners along with
Radio Silence.

482
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,200
Like they had scripted Ready or
Not, Scream 5, Scream 6.

483
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,400
So they had already, you know,
kind of had their hands in how

484
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,240
do we like reboot these
franchises in a way that doesn't

485
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,640
necessarily get rid of
everything that had come before

486
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,080
it as well.
Zach Lipinski and Adam Stein are

487
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,720
brought on to direct.
Like they had like done a pitch

488
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,640
over Zoom where they actually
set up their own elaborate like

489
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:19,800
Rube Goldberg esque pranks and
got like the got the directing

490
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,480
gig based off of like their
passion and their ability to

491
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,240
just kind of be goofy.
Like, all right, these are the

492
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480
right guys for it.
They get the tone, they get what

493
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,440
they're going for.
They've been like indie

494
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,800
directors.
They had done stuff with

495
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,880
Tribeca, like they were up and
comers.

496
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,440
They really had not done a lot
of like films, to be quite

497
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,120
honest.
Like probably the biggest credit

498
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,120
to their names was like Co
directing like Kim Possible for

499
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,760
the Disney Channel.
The live acting wild.

500
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Yeah, which is kind of wild with
you go from that to this.

501
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,880
But they were like, I think
Carrie Fisher like was really

502
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,560
singing Adam Stein's like
praises like he had done like a

503
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,120
a reality competition for film
makers where she's like, his

504
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,960
stuff is far and away better
than anyone else as he's so

505
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,400
creative.
So, you know, it was basically

506
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,560
just let's match these guys with
the right opportunity and like,

507
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,440
we'll they'll they'll succeed.
So only other real notes I have.

508
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,280
This was supposed to go straight
to streaming.

509
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,280
It was not supposed to be a
theatrical.

510
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,840
I'll throw it out to you guys.
Like, how do these executives

511
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,600
keep their jobs?
Will they make decisions like

512
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,880
this?
Hard, hard telling honestly, it

513
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,880
I I think the best decision they
made was not doing that.

514
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,160
And I think, you know, looking
at things like Prey and things

515
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,840
that they did release to
streaming that probably would

516
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,440
have done much better.
And then things like Alien

517
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Romulus, which gets released in
theaters after.

518
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,520
I think that was supposed to be
a streaming only, a straight to

519
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,800
streaming release as well.
That one does significantly

520
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,880
better than they would have had.
Like I people want to go see

521
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,640
movies in theaters, just put if
it's a good movie, put the damn

522
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,640
thing in the theater.
God.

523
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,160
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know, this would

524
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400
have been a bummer to go to go
straight to streaming because,

525
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,080
you know, again, like so much of
the, you know, fun of this is

526
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,520
like, you know, watching those
like, you know, big set pieces

527
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,880
with a crowd.
You know, like, I 'cause I think

528
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,120
this is like one of the few
franchises.

529
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,880
I think I've seen all of them in
theaters and and you know, and

530
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,160
so like, yeah, it, it just
wouldn't again, because of

531
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,240
especially when these like big
set pieces have like the scale

532
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,520
to them and everything, like,
you know, just like kind of

533
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,320
wouldn't be the same.
Like especially this one.

534
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,520
Like, you know, if they, if this
film, like, you know, with this

535
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,040
sky needle set piece, it's like
wouldn't quite feel as big, you

536
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,760
know, in your living room or,
you know, on your laptop.

537
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,760
I'm trying to think of any
horror movies that were

538
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,000
originally going to go straight
to streaming that got released

539
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,600
in theaters that have failed.
Do you know what I mean?

540
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Like I'm thinking about and the
closest I can come is maybe the

541
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,880
first Omen, which was supposed
to go like straight to Hulu,

542
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,200
which is a great movie, but it
just like didn't light the box

543
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,760
office on fire.
Like it didn't fail, but it

544
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,600
wasn't like a massive hit.
And I think that might be in

545
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,760
part because like it came out
like, you know, right after

546
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Immaculate did.
So you kind of have that like

547
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Dante's Peak, like slash volcano
type situation where you are

548
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Armageddon in Deep Impact.
Like you have like similar

549
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,960
movies and the one that comes
out first is going to be the one

550
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,560
that does better.
But when you look at the track

551
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,880
record, like Evil Dead Rises
smile to now this one, like

552
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640
there's at least like a half
dozen horror movies that were

553
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,640
supposed to go straight to
streaming that not only were

554
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,520
like successful, but were
massive successes.

555
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,960
And especially when you have
something like, you know, we

556
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,320
just talked about the box office
everything does like three to

557
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,280
four to five times its budget
back.

558
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Like what is the I don't get the
whole you can only watch it

559
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,440
streaming here.
If anything you put it in

560
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,680
theaters and then say now only
streaming on HBO Max.

561
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,760
I really don't understand
Netflix's insistence on not

562
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,800
releasing movies theatrically.
I mean, it's like they just hate

563
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,640
money as I mean they they
released like the Knives Out two

564
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,920
in theaters for like a week.
Right.

565
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,680
And it was successful, it was
very successful in that week.

566
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,560
And they could have made and,
you know, it's, it's not

567
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,400
sustainable, this model where
you are reliant on continually

568
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,000
having more subscribers.
So it does.

569
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,320
It just doesn't make any sense
to me that they refuse to

570
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,640
release physical media and they
refuse to release theatrically.

571
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,720
Exactly because you can only
like once you've maxed out your

572
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,640
subscriber base, you can only
like nickel and dime people for

573
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,320
so long and be like well we'll
just charge like an extra 3

574
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,320
bucks every nine months we'll
raise eventually people are

575
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,400
going to tap out on it just.
You know what I'm I'm, I'm going

576
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,960
to call it now.
My theory in about I'd say we

577
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120
got maybe 2 years before this
breaks.

578
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,160
Netflix hasn't been ran by a
person for years.

579
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,560
It's been a computer this whole
time.

580
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160
Like they, they, like, I don't
think they're, I don't think

581
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,880
there's been a human being
behind like, you know, like,

582
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,000
because like, what is there, you
know, strategy they give, you

583
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,720
know?
Oh, yeah.

584
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Here, let's give the Russo
brothers $300 million again.

585
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,560
It's like, like, you know, who
comes up with these decisions?

586
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,880
Not a person, that's who.
Yeah.

587
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,080
You have like Ted Sarandoff
saying the idea of people

588
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,360
leaving their homes to watch
movies in a dark room with other

589
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,960
people as outdated.
Like, did people don't want to

590
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,920
do that anymore?
It's like, well, wouldn't you

591
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,840
put it like that?
Yeah, but they're trying to like

592
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,159
counter program now against big
movie release dates.

593
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:17,040
Like you see, I think the
Stranger Things last season,

594
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,280
like the way they're going to
release movies is it's going to

595
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280
be like, I think maybe labor,
like Halloween or Labor Day

596
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,440
week, but then Christmas week,
like two major weekends on the

597
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,199
movie going calendar where
they're going to start saying

598
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,360
here are heavy hitter shows, you
know, like Stranger Things now

599
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,600
stare starring like Gen.
X, They're now Gen.

600
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,040
X.
They're so fucking old beefing.

601
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,199
Beefing with theaters is so
funny.

602
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,159
Like, yeah, while those while
those weirdos are sitting in

603
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,440
that creepy auditorium, we'll be
with you on the couch.

604
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,400
And it's like, yeah, Netflix.
Sure.

605
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,880
Yeah, it just seems like a crime
to me that movies from people

606
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,480
like Scorsese, and I mean, I
know he's not.

607
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,880
He's only did the one movie with
Netflix, but and Linklater and

608
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040
David Fincher are not getting
theatrical releases.

609
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,560
And you know, there's, there's
like, and then there's the

610
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,960
Frankenstein issue.
Is Guillermo del Toro's

611
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,600
Frankenstein going to have a
theatrical release?

612
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,440
People are clamoring for it,
including del Toro, but who

613
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,360
knows?
If they want I'm.

614
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Sorry, you go first, Steve.
No, I was just going to say if

615
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,440
you want the, I mean that feels
in, in terms of release poised

616
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,480
for an Academy Awards run.
And if that's the case, you have

617
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,160
to at least have a qualifying
run in LA and New York.

618
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,320
Well.
Netflix has a theater in LA, but

619
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,880
I mean, that is limited to
people that live in LA, you

620
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,080
know, so people like Devon who
are lucky enough to be there can

621
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,000
maybe check out some of those
things.

622
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,560
But you know, that's a good
portion of your movie movie

623
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,560
going population that are not
going to be able to see this

624
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,320
movie theatrically in any form,
you know, or even have the

625
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,760
opportunity to.
And, you know, and I think it

626
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,800
was just bizarre to me that a
movie that was so successful in

627
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,560
2019, like Knives Out, its
sequel, is essentially relegated

628
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,880
almost entirely to streaming.
And its second sequel, like Will

629
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,160
You, will be too.
Which is a big ass bummer.

630
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Yeah.
And if you're a filmmaker, like

631
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,120
some of them, like I don't think
David Fincher cares so much as

632
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,040
long as he gets to make movies.
I don't think Linklater seems

633
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,320
pretty happy.
Like as long as he gets to make

634
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,600
movies and that's fine.
He doesn't.

635
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Seem.
He doesn't seem too fussed.

636
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,120
But if you're like Adele Toro
and you're all about the

637
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,520
theatrical experience, you kind
of have to know what you're

638
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,840
getting in bed with, like when
you sign the deal.

639
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,680
Do you know what I mean?
Like, it's not like, you know,

640
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,960
it's not like Netflix is pulling
a bait and switch, right?

641
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,280
It's.
True.

642
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,200
You know, you know what they're
all about when they're getting

643
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,080
in the deal.
And unless you have like

644
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:09,280
ironclad assurances, I will get
4 weeks 2500 or more screens.

645
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,280
You know the only, I think it's
like a very nebulous language,

646
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,880
which is like we will do our
best to get your movies in as

647
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,080
many theaters as possible.
What is their best?

648
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,280
Like that's a very nebulous, non
concrete way to put it.

649
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Well, at least we didn't have to
worry about that here because

650
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,160
this one did make it to many
theaters.

651
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Yeah, it did.
And it's made 200 and. 50

652
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,360
million Netflix ran.
Sorry.

653
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,920
It is.
That's all right.

654
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,120
And thus concludes our business
border.

655
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,280
And concludes Our Old Man Yells
at Cloud section of the podcast.

656
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,160
Well, let's talk this movie and
I'll throw it out to you guys

657
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,600
'cause I've said a mouthful, but
this opening set piece of on the

658
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,880
on the Space Needle, where does
it rate for you guys?

659
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,520
Like on its own, but also like
within the sixth film.

660
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,880
I mean, I think this one, as far
as where I would put it in my

661
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,960
openings, it's, it's somewhere
in the middle.

662
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:13,680
I think this one is interesting
in a in a way that it's it's

663
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080
different that this one.
This one is a little bit more

664
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,280
drawn out than some of the other
ones are like some of the other

665
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,120
ones.
Like we might get like a little

666
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,240
like brief bit like of setting
up some of the characters.

667
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,120
Like I just rewatched 3 and
three also does this like they

668
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,720
spend a good like 10 minutes
like, you know, with the

669
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:34,080
characters before like the
actual like roller coaster piece

670
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,640
happens.
And so this one kind of is in

671
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,640
that camp versus like something
like four or two.

672
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,480
They just like it just kind of
happens.

673
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,800
And so I like that this one kind
of has a good amount of a build

674
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,840
up it's playing on.
I like when the franchise, you

675
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,520
know, makes specific things to
like either call out like myths

676
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,440
or certain fears, you know, so
it's like, obviously this plays

677
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,960
on fear, on heights.
I like the little bit of where

678
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,480
it's like plays on the myth.
That's like if you drop a penny

679
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,000
from the Empire State Building,
it could kill somebody down at

680
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,840
the beginning.
I like how that's how it kind of

681
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,360
plays in Speaking of which, I
had a volleyball game the other

682
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,040
day and I was about to serve and
like I went to like do like my

683
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,000
like serve routine.
I like look down while like

684
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,240
dribbling the ball.
And there was a penny there.

685
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,480
And I was like, I like put the
ball down.

686
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,440
I was like, I like took the
penny, took it all the way, like

687
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320
off to the side of the court.
And I was like, sorry, guys, I

688
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520
just saved everybody's lives.
You're welcome.

689
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,000
And went back on.
So, so like the little

690
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,320
references to the penny like
that, like myth setting up.

691
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,480
I, you know, I'm from Saint
Louis where the arch happens and

692
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,040
it's a very often that you'll
take like the little like tram

693
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,720
up to the top of the arch.
Those things breakdown all the

694
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,680
time.
You get stuck in the arch

695
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,440
halfway up.
Sometimes it's whatever you're

696
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,320
chill about it, Like, and when
you're in the arch, you can

697
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,240
literally feel it swaying.
Like it's kind of fucking it's,

698
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,040
it's pretty freaky.
But yet somehow we trust this

699
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,840
thing, you know, so it's like a
so I got a little bit of that.

700
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,000
So yeah, it it plays on all the
little things.

701
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,600
And like, again, we kind of see,
you know, OK, is it going to be

702
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,080
a a a technical snafu with the
band?

703
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,920
Is it going to be this see
through dance floor?

704
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,640
Is it going to be, you know,
something on the roof of the

705
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,560
like at the top of the needle?
You know, so nice little setup.

706
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,760
And I think it it's it's fun.
We we haven't gotten a musical

707
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,880
number in a final destination
series, even though music is

708
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,600
like very important because they
do like the recurring song

709
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,800
motif, which we do get in this
film later.

710
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,960
But we get a musical number in
this and that's the first for

711
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,160
the franchise.
So overall, I like I I dig this

712
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,560
opening 1.
I think it's very exciting as

713
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,960
some of the deaths during it
aren't as exciting, but I think

714
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,080
the build up to the the actual
catastrophe is really fun.

715
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,600
The deaths within the
catastrophe don't exactly do it

716
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,800
for me.
Pour one out for the bellhop

717
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,040
because he was the most
dedicated.

718
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,600
Of the.
Operator, yeah.

719
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,800
The pressure, that guy, he was
trying his best.

720
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,040
What about?
What about you other guys?

721
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,840
I think this is probably my
second favorite set up after the

722
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,840
after Part 2.
I think 2 is just the log truck

723
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,560
in this the highway.
I mean, that's that's really

724
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,280
hard to beat.
It's so iconic.

725
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,240
Yeah.
And it's, I mean, and again, you

726
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,840
know, growing up in the
Northwest, having been in the

727
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Space Needle several times in my
life, there's a certain amount

728
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,840
of nostalgia.
And one of the things that's

729
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,800
funny is like right after this
movie came out, you know, they

730
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,120
unveiled the new elevator system
in the Space Needle.

731
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,600
And so it's like this double
Decker thing that I will

732
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,080
probably never go on in my life
after seeing this movie.

733
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,680
It's I don't even know how it's
like it's, it's 2 levels of an

734
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,880
elevator.
So they can take more people up

735
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,520
at once.
And yeah, it's like a glass

736
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,320
elevator.
That doesn't sound good at all,

737
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:20,880
no.
It doesn't, especially that it

738
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,000
happened, you know, right after
this movie came out.

739
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,120
And so did they find a way to
tap into the marketing?

740
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,840
I, I they should have.
And just be like, this won't be

741
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,840
us, we promise.
There's just like, and there was

742
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,840
brilliant marketing for this
movie that they had going on.

743
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,320
I mean like the, the, the dead
bodies, you know, the fake dead

744
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,400
bodies hanging from the
Billboard sign putting up the,

745
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,960
the poster, you know, and the,
the log trucks and everything.

746
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,040
I, I just thought that was all
great.

747
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,640
But as far as the opening
sequences go, this is such a

748
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,760
lot.
It's so much fun and really I

749
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:10,880
think it sets up the the humor
of this one, which the other

750
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,320
ones are funny, but at times
too, but this one really goes

751
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,920
really deeply understands that
this is kind of silly and

752
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,560
supposed to be fun.
And it works for me in just, I

753
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,560
mean, it's sort of like the best
sequences of the monkey kind of

754
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:38,280
ran that way for me too this
year where it it's just like the

755
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,760
the punchline is just perfectly
placed.

756
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,760
It's again I felt like Marx
Brothers routines.

757
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Yeah, I re watching Part 1, I
was struck by how serious that

758
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,680
entry takes itself, especially
when you compare it like to the

759
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,920
once you get to Part 2, like all
bets are off, you know.

760
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,600
And I think one of the things
that one of the underrepresented

761
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,960
reasons why Part 2 is, is so
iconic, that opening is when you

762
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,480
get Witchmaster 3's AJ Cook
leading the charge, then of

763
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,440
course, you're just in for an
iconic time at the cinemas.

764
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Fans of our Witchmaster series,
we'll know.

765
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,400
Steven, what were your thoughts
on on this opening?

766
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,840
God I loved it so much.
Like one of my favorite

767
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,560
hallmarks of this franchise is
the slow build and the constant

768
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,760
misdirects along the way.
And so you're at any point

769
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,040
you're just like, well, is that
The thing is that The thing is

770
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,160
that the thing?
And I find that build up to

771
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,160
often be in many cases to kind
of kind of reflect on Devon's

772
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,920
point more satisfying than the
actual kills themselves is like

773
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,680
figuring out how we're going to
get there.

774
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,960
The kills to me are almost
secondary to the elaborate

775
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,000
tapestry that we're weaving to
get us to that point.

776
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,480
And so this just executes that
so spectacularly.

777
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,240
Although there are a few deaths
within that opening scene that

778
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:09,800
really just chef's kiss
perfection, like the guy who

779
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,520
gets stuck half in the elevator,
half out when it when it goes.

780
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,480
And so he just gets like cut
like bilaterally right down the

781
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,720
middle or the the piano dropping
on that fucking heel kid.

782
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,080
Like I mean, has there my, my
crowd like erupted into like

783
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,760
applause at that because
everyone, I, I love that

784
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,080
everyone was on board with every
like rude with the kid.

785
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,520
My kid that were kid.
Fuck that kid so hard Oh my

786
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,560
gosh.
As everyone knows, we are team

787
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,560
fuck those kids.
But in terms of like shonky kids

788
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,920
in a sweater, that kid is way up
there with like, he deserved to

789
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,160
die.
He's he's up there with like

790
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,480
Stillwell Angel from like league
of their own and just in terms

791
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,320
of like shitty children.
He's like a young, better

792
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,480
dressed Nelson Muntz from The
Simpsons.

793
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Pretty much how I would, I think
he.

794
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Grew up to be Francis from Pee
Wee's Big.

795
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,360
Adventure.
Oh my God, that's perfect.

796
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,960
See.
Which which I gotta say though,

797
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,080
this is also in line with the
franchise cause the franchise is

798
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,200
also always been fuck them kids.
Because I mean like, like if

799
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,280
you're gonna go with the
philosophy of like death comes

800
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,560
for all, it comes for everyone.
Like you have to include

801
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,840
children that like, that's why
I'm always that way when it just

802
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,640
comes to films in general is
like, well, it's like, that's

803
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,160
what happens in real life.
Everybody's on the chopping

804
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,480
board.
So it's like, you know, 'cause

805
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,280
whether it be that that BBQ kill
at the end of two, I think is a

806
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,640
is a really funny one.
Oh, that my son.

807
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,160
After he saw that he he would
talk about exploding barbecues

808
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:48,800
for weeks.
I.

809
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560
Mean well think about the
opening scene in Part 1 when

810
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,240
they're boarding the plane and
there's a bunch of babies crying

811
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,400
and they're like they're like
it'd have to be a really fucked

812
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,120
up God to like kill the plane
now and then the next thing you

813
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,640
see is like a disabled person
like someone who's like really

814
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,880
struggling and they're like a
really fucked up God and the

815
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,840
next thing you know like planes
blowing up you know so yeah

816
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,920
you're right like this is always
had that mean streak to it.

817
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,120
I am with you, Steven.
And that like I really love like

818
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,960
how I mean, it's like a 20
minute set piece and especially

819
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,640
again, rewatching Part 1, it's
almost like blinking.

820
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,040
You miss it and it's over.
This one really takes its time,

821
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,840
like right from the music cues
at the outset where it's like

822
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,320
credences bad moon rising and
you pay attention to the lyrics

823
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,880
like that.
Don't go out tonight.

824
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,520
It's bound to take you're like,
all right, chef's kiss.

825
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,800
You go from that to like Johnny
Cash's Ring of Fire.

826
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,840
So we're adding we're adding to
the mix now and all the I I do

827
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,920
appreciate like Iris's paranoia
and you know, it's one of the

828
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,000
hallmarks of the series as you
take these like very innocuous

829
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,440
things that occur in daily life
all the time and and you have a

830
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,480
character absolutely like
grasping at straws to like freak

831
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,400
out over it.
So I do appreciate that here,

832
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,480
just like the little thing, just
like filming the elevator going

833
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,440
up and you have that like point
of view shot of like how far off

834
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,440
the ground they are, like
looking through the glass floor.

835
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,960
I'll say that like when the
destruction starts, the sequence

836
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,640
is dinged a bit by some really
obvious like green screen work.

837
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Like, I don't, I don't always
catch that stuff.

838
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,120
Like and it was obvious even to
me how much they were working

839
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,760
against a green screen.
So it it's actually been kind of

840
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,520
funny because that was
definitely like, I remember when

841
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,520
me and Garrett came out, that
was like one of the first things

842
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,200
that we had noted like as far as
the film in general is like,

843
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,560
this is a little bit more CGI
than we're kind of used to in a

844
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,400
Final Destination movie. 4 is
pretty CGI heavy, but the rest

845
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,720
of the series, like especially
three and five do a really good

846
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:18,360
job of blending the two.
But like, it's not that there's

847
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,760
no CGI, but they blend it really
well with the practical.

848
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,480
And in a lot of shots, it
doesn't work in this one.

849
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,040
And I've seen that be a
criticism for a lot of people.

850
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,800
And ever since the the Final
Destination, like social media

851
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,920
pages and directors keep posting
the practical effects to be

852
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,960
like, see, look how much we did.
It's like, yeah, we know you did

853
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,400
some, but like you didn't blend
it in with the digital stuff

854
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,280
that you're doing very well.
The stuff that you did do

855
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,360
doesn't always look great.
Yeah, So they, they've been kind

856
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,920
of doing this like backwards,
like no, no, see, we, we did do

857
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,000
practical.
It's like, no, we know you did,

858
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,560
but like, yeah, we also know
what else you did on that too.

859
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,520
One thing that is different
about this opening set piece

860
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,920
compared to some of the others
is this is the first time we

861
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,640
don't see like we see the we see
what happens, but we don't see

862
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,520
the the like rewind of like what
actually happens of them saving

863
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,520
everybody.
We don't see that until a little

864
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,280
bit later in the film.
I thought that was AI mean.

865
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,040
I thought it was interesting,
but I remember being like, oh

866
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,520
wait, like that's not how this
usually goes, because again,

867
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,400
you're we just kind of know this
formula.

868
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,040
Here's.
Why I like that?

869
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,160
I like that because it gives the
family like plausible

870
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,240
deniability against Iris, right,
Because Iris like saves

871
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:40,040
everybody, like everybody that
was there lives because she, you

872
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,680
know, is basically like it's
people, you're eating people and

873
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Soylent green and everybody
leaves.

874
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,280
So later on the family's like,
well, maybe she just noticed the

875
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,840
glass breaking on the floor and
she saved everyone.

876
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,120
It wasn't a big like death
premonition.

877
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,800
That's crazy talk where if she
if like a bunch of people had

878
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,640
died, you'd almost have to like
kind of like maybe kind of sort

879
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,800
of it with her.
So I did like that because

880
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,760
you're I didn't really catch on
till later, like you said, when

881
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,200
they kind of show things from
her point of view.

882
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,400
Oh, no one died in this.
Like everybody actually lives.

883
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:23,880
Like that was a lot different.
Yeah, yeah, cuz I mean it.

884
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,920
And it also helps us avoid cuz I
I hate in some I think they

885
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,120
really only do it in the first
two movies where it's like cops

886
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,080
are suspicious of the person
that had the premonition and

887
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,960
then it's like damn.
And it's like I we I'm glad we

888
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,800
ditched that subplot in most of
the films.

889
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,200
And yeah, so we don't have to
worry about that here in this

890
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,120
one.
But it was definitely a little

891
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,120
switch up where it's like, oh,
and then we like cut out to

892
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,440
current day and it's our main
character kind of having the the

893
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,200
dream and everything.
So back to what I was saying

894
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:00,840
earlier, Bloodlines is, is this
is this the, the, the best

895
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,960
bloodlines subtitled sequel that
we've gotten?

896
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,120
Because, as we discussed in The
Wrong Turn Ones, this subtitle

897
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,640
does not have a good track
record.

898
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:15,280
Well bloodlines is part 6IN
wrong turn correct?

899
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,000
5.
Five O That's right it.

900
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,480
Should have been 6.
That's right.

901
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,640
That's we discussed 5.
Yeah, that's right, 6 is last

902
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,560
resort.
Pour one out for Papa Roach

903
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,040
which won't make it to the
board.

904
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:30,200
Yeah, you're right.
And that is one of the worst

905
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,280
movie that made me want to not
only quit podcasting but quit

906
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,440
life.
So definitely this is better.

907
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,040
OK.
Don't say that too loud.

908
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,520
Your microphone might start
sparking from from us.

909
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,600
Through that.
That's what.

910
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,000
Inside what?
What was that?

911
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,960
So we have this ahead of.
Teetering wildly behind you.

912
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,560
We have this ahead of wrong Turn
5.

913
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,040
What else do we have?
Like what are the other

914
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,360
contenders?
Hellraiser Bloodlines.

915
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,800
Haven't seen it, I'm guessing
this is better.

916
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,920
Than Hellraiser. 4 yes.
Yeah, but this is better than

917
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,880
Hellraiser 4.
But I think there's a lot of

918
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,640
people that would push back on
that.

919
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,280
I know there's a lot of, there's
a lot of Hellraiser Bloodlines

920
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,320
fans and I don't.
See that?

921
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,320
I don't get it.
I don't get it.

922
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,360
Get it?
A lot of people vote Republican

923
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,840
too, so.
You make a country.

924
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,240
Also true is also true.
There's a tremors one.

925
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,120
This is definitely bad.
This is definitely better than

926
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,560
Tremors 5 I've.
Never seen a Tremors movie.

927
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Neither of them I've only seen
I've seen the 1st 2 you.

928
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,160
Haven't seen the original.
One, put it on the wheel.

929
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:38,520
No.
Oh.

930
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,080
Goodness, that's a.
The first the first one.

931
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,280
The first one is really solid.
I I I watched it for the first

932
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,320
time for Movies for Life a few
years ago.

933
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,360
The The franchise goes from
Kevin Bacon as your protagonist

934
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,760
to Jamie Kennedy.
So that's the trajectory of that

935
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,920
franchise.
I don't tell Harmony Colangelo

936
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,720
I'm I'm feel like this slander
on this.

937
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,400
I feel like that's everybody's
trajectory though, Like we go

938
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,400
through life, we have our Kevin
Bacon phase, but we all end up

939
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,480
Jamie Kennedy.
It's just time waits for no man

940
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,600
at times undefeated.
At least you have Michael Gross

941
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,880
as the constant yes.
Yeah, he is the yes, he is the

942
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,240
anchor.
But so far this.

943
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,160
Is number 1 so far.
This is up there.

944
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,840
There's a dead bloodline, which
this is way better than Day of

945
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,240
the Dead bloodline.
Good guy.

946
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:32,040
And, and, and that that ties in
pretty heavy to this one with

947
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,120
this.
I think it's interesting 'cause

948
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,560
it's like it opens up the world
in an interesting way lore wise,

949
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,920
but at the same time it's like
it it it puts a funny thing.

950
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,600
So basically they say, OK, so
everybody that survived at this,

951
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,720
they survived and they went on
to have families because death

952
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:53,800
couldn't kill them fast enough.
So I like that in this world,

953
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,120
death is like on Santa Claus
rules that that we we are just

954
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,840
going to accept that there's one
grim Reaper out there that is

955
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,160
just a backlog the ass, you
know?

956
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,360
So I like the this logic that
death is going to come for the

957
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,760
entire bloodline that should not
exist because that one person

958
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,080
survived.
I think that is interesting lore

959
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,040
thing, but also like very funny
to like kind of think about like

960
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,600
death being like, Ah, damn it,
they had twins.

961
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,920
Fuck, that's two more onto the
list.

962
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,960
I'm fuck.
It makes death a kind of

963
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,760
personal entity, which is, you
know, interesting in its own way

964
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,920
more.
It makes them feel kind of

965
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,920
corporate, almost.
More, more Freddy Krueger than

966
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,680
you know, You know, I don't know
what.

967
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,280
I would.
I don't know.

968
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Are you guys familiar with the
term the Eisenhower Matrix?

969
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,040
No.
You go ahead.

970
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,640
You break up your task into four
categories like urgent,

971
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,160
important, urgent, not
important, not urgent,

972
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,080
important, not urgent, not
important.

973
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,000
And that's a death in this
because he's like going through

974
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,320
each.
Nice.

975
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,160
To.
Me, it's the fatal flaw.

976
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,080
Like thinking about it after
like Iris is like I've cheated

977
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,760
death for decades.
I have this book, I have all

978
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,800
these notes and you actually
haven't like the only thing you

979
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,480
really did was like you died
next to last and like death had

980
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,520
you and not urgent, not
important.

981
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,400
Like you were the modern
quadrant.

982
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,880
And he eventually like when it
was your time, he came for you.

983
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Like you actually avoided
nothing.

984
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,720
You spent all of those decades
in a cabin in the middle, which

985
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:39,600
was a death trap, by the way.
Like for someone we need to talk

986
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,120
about this cabin because like
for someone who was like

987
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,160
sunlight hitting my plant could
kill me.

988
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,920
She is like what if I put barbed
wire, faulty rewiring and a lot

989
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,360
of like poleaxes everywhere.
What could possibly go wrong?

990
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,240
Also like giant like tanks of
explosive chemicals.

991
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,760
Yeah, let me live in a fortress
of mainly metal and expect

992
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,320
nothing.
I think this is all very funny.

993
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,640
So on Spectre Cinema we did
actually they never released,

994
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,160
but a part of our lost files was
doing the Final Destination

995
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,080
franchise.
And and we always talked about

996
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,600
how, you know, the various
protagonists and certain people

997
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,560
have their final destination
like abilities.

998
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,600
You know, whether it be the
final desk divisions is what I

999
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,080
call it.
The people that get these

1000
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,360
premonitions and the clues.
So I like it in this one.

1001
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,600
We get that it's a learned skill
that you can learn to catch

1002
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,920
death's little what he would go
for and things like that.

1003
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:52,640
And this this final destination
Bible that that irises compiled,

1004
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,600
I think is is an interesting
addition.

1005
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,280
So this isn't a in the
supernatural.

1006
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,760
This is like, no, you can learn,
you can get in death's mind.

1007
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,160
I think that that's another kind
of funny addition to this.

1008
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,880
Just to just be like, so you're
just extra vigilant.

1009
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,360
Like this is like kind of like a
Batman skill, I guess.

1010
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,720
Just to be like, I I can see
with the chain reaction of what

1011
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,880
or no like kind of Sherlike
Holmes, the Robert Downey Junior

1012
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,640
one.
You you kind of like that a

1013
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,360
little bit.
I should you should take that

1014
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,840
superpower and go to the casino
is what you should be doing.

1015
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,600
I'm saying.
Going to the sports book is

1016
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,440
really, you know, instead of
this like I wonder if this kids

1017
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,600
going to do a trick shot with a
soccer ball and knock you into a

1018
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,720
garbage dumpster.
Like that has a very limited

1019
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,000
practical use in terms of like
you, what you can do with it.

1020
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,600
It would be fun for some party
tricks, I guess, but you can

1021
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,040
only charge so much for that.
So Lois's whole plan was just

1022
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,480
just absolute shit, just like
not the best.

1023
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:03,160
And furthermore, for someone who
was getting a like full

1024
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,760
scholarship, like a full ride to
university, like Stephanie is

1025
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,680
one of the dumbest characters in
movie history.

1026
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,640
Just her whole her whole plan at
the end of the movie, let's

1027
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,080
drive to the fortress that
killed grandma.

1028
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,040
And then what we're going to do
is like when we see, Oh, shits

1029
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,000
looks bad.
What if I plow this?

1030
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,480
You know, when a Bay go through
it?

1031
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,480
What could go wrong?
Just not a very bright woman.

1032
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,800
I I think Stephanie is
unfortunate in many ways for

1033
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,760
this film because one, she's
just kind of surrounded by

1034
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,240
supporting characters that are
like either funnier or

1035
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,560
interesting or, you know, you
know, why weren't, why wasn't

1036
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:53,160
Eric the the lead of this movie?
You know, you know why why

1037
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,280
wasn't our boy, our PRC boy, the
goth boy?

1038
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,880
Why is it wasn't he the
protagonist?

1039
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,440
But and and not that Stephanie
like not to you know, Caitlin,

1040
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,360
Santa's wanna she's not she's
not bad.

1041
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,800
You know, she's she's doing what
is asked of her.

1042
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,600
But I think.
She's again being asked to kind

1043
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,520
of be OK, She's the
granddaughter, so she's the one

1044
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,800
that's kind of put everything
together and like be the the

1045
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,480
connection amongst the family
tree and everything.

1046
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,920
She's got to get the playbook.
She's got it.

1047
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,840
She's got a lot of stuff to do
to where she doesn't really get

1048
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,800
to be a character much in the
film.

1049
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,440
So I think it's more of a script
thing for Stephanie because

1050
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,840
yeah, that final like climax,
it's just like, girl, what are

1051
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,120
we doing here?
Like what?

1052
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,640
Like what?
Like truly, what are we doing?

1053
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,360
So I don't know.
I I think it's more of AI

1054
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,600
definitely blame the script more
than I blame Caitlin in any

1055
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,200
capacity.
You.

1056
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,120
Mentioned the the pacing of this
so I'll ask this now.

1057
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,840
Like the whole third act.
Like once they leave the

1058
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,080
hospital.
That seems like the most rushed

1059
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,800
third act of any.
Oh, totally.

1060
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,400
Or or especially within the
franchise.

1061
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,680
Yeah, like the the I'd say this
has one of the weaker finales.

1062
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:11,640
Yeah, honestly is a big thing
because again, it's like it

1063
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,040
almost feels kind of.
I know I defend this scene, but

1064
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,920
I know other people have issues
with it.

1065
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,680
It feels like, and it follows
where it's just like they come

1066
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,800
up with the most random plan.
But in that movie, it's like,

1067
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,640
because we don't know how the
entity truly works.

1068
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,760
So you can kind of defend that
scene of being like, well, they

1069
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,480
truly don't know what to
actually do against this entity.

1070
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,000
Versus Stephanie has a playbook
here.

1071
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,400
Yeah, and they're teenagers.
Stephanie literally has a thick

1072
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:46,120
ass playbook of options of what
to do to outwit death rather

1073
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,600
than let's just go back to
grandma's fortress.

1074
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,000
Yeah.
And it follows, like, Mikaya

1075
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,120
Monroe does have a plan before
that.

1076
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,440
It's like, I'm going to go bang
a bunch of skeevy dudes.

1077
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,920
And that's, you know, a good
idea on paper.

1078
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,440
But then when she drives to put
it in action, she's like,

1079
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,320
actually, no, that does not
sound like a good idea.

1080
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,720
So they at least have some
backups here.

1081
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,800
It's just like drive quickly
with this battering RAM of a

1082
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,680
motor vehicle through the place.
It looks like it's going to

1083
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:21,120
catch on fire and already has
killed one person and has the

1084
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,680
taste of blood already.
Yeah, they, they, I don't know,

1085
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,080
they could have did something a
little bit because I mean, I

1086
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,440
guess it, it's, it kind of sucks
because they already kind of

1087
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,480
blew their load a little bit
with the idea of like, OK,

1088
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,560
they're like, you know, killing
yourself and bringing yourself

1089
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,840
back to life.
Like that's a new wrinkle into

1090
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,680
this.
Because we, we had seen in five,

1091
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,200
they brought up the idea of like
killing somebody and taking

1092
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,040
their time.
That was introduced in five.

1093
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,120
But then they do that and then
they introduce the idea in this

1094
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,800
one, like, or you can just kill
yourself and then come back and

1095
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,720
then you're good.
But so they spend all this thing

1096
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,840
and the hospital set piece is so
fun.

1097
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,920
And you know, very interesting
that once after that hospital

1098
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,440
scene, it's like, oh, we still
have another 20 minutes left of

1099
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,600
movie and we still need to like
kind of wrap up loose ends here,

1100
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,840
you know, so it it's like, OK,
now what do we do?

1101
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,880
And then they were still going
to try to, OK, we're going to do

1102
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,800
that again, We're going to go to
grandma's house and it'll be

1103
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,720
safer to kill ourselves there
and then try to come back or

1104
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,640
whatever.
So yeah, I don't know.

1105
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,160
It's.
Yeah.

1106
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,320
As far as just like the
structure, it's just like very

1107
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,640
weird.
Once the hospital ends, you're

1108
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,520
left with the three least
interesting characters in the

1109
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,480
Yeah.
Yeah.

1110
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,360
Yeah, I'm just noticing the
mother's name in the movie.

1111
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Not grandma, but the mom, and
it's Darlene Campbell.

1112
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,720
Like that's my principal who's
retiring.

1113
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,280
I'm like, man, that's freaky.
So.

1114
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,000
Yeah, because, yeah, there
because there was supposed to

1115
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,200
be, you know, the the mom and
the the working out with the two

1116
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,000
kids.
Even though I didn't like bring

1117
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,680
her back, I thought the sibling
dynamic and that was really

1118
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,680
great.
The sibling dynamic here is bone

1119
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,880
dry.
I hate you because you went to

1120
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,880
college.
Yeah.

1121
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,480
You.
Don't even call me anymore.

1122
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,560
Yeah, it's a little like the way
she gets the cold shoulder from

1123
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:19,120
Julia, who's just kind of there.
It is weird.

1124
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,080
I did want to, I wanted to ask
you guys this.

1125
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:28,440
How bad of a mom did Iris have
to be to like, as soon as they

1126
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,120
throw the shovels of dirt on the
grave, they're like fire up the

1127
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:37,680
BBQ time for frozen marks.
We got life-size Jenga pieces

1128
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,000
like, like they haven't.
It's just they haven't even.

1129
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,200
It's just it was blew my mind.
Like that was the reaction.

1130
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,560
Like grandma's dead.
Put some more shrimp on the

1131
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,240
Barbie and let's get drunk.
That was amazing.

1132
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,480
Like that's mummy dearest levels
of like.

1133
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,320
What were your thoughts on this?
It's abrupt, I mean, there's no

1134
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,480
doubt about that, but.
I mean, it's, it's, it's a plot

1135
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,960
contrivance for sure.
I don't know, I appreciate it.

1136
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,320
Like, you know, like just
because it's a film don't mean

1137
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,120
you just gotta like, be sad all
day.

1138
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,800
Like, hey, we still got to eat,
you know, like let's hang out.

1139
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,080
Like I don't want everybody to.
Being sad.

1140
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,080
And then there's.
Let's.

1141
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,400
Go got trampoline and show me
your backflips.

1142
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,320
Dad Well, we got, we got the.
Whole family around, so we might

1143
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,480
as well just, you know, get all,
get everybody together and have

1144
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,480
a.
Couple it's one of those things

1145
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,080
too, all the like the cousins
and everything none of them even

1146
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,640
met Iris.
So it's like kind of one of

1147
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,960
those things too, like, OK,
like, yeah, that's our grandma,

1148
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,760
that passball.
Like they literally didn't don't

1149
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,040
even know who she was.
So like, I mean, I guess it's

1150
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,560
kind of like I I don't know,
like it in that that's supposed

1151
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:49,320
to be, you know, there there's a
lot of complicated like the OK,

1152
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:54,160
because I guess like Iris like
was like training Darlene too

1153
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,840
hard on how to avoid death and
that's.

1154
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,000
What sort of like them?
Go away.

1155
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:06,840
Sort of like the Halloween 2018
dynamic between, you know, Jamie

1156
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:12,880
Lee Curtis and and yeah.
I, I kind of needed to see, I

1157
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,120
think some of that in a
flashback only because Brian,

1158
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,280
you can attest, like when you
have kids, especially your first

1159
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,200
one, you think everything is
going to kill them, like every

1160
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,640
single thing.
And that goes away after a bit

1161
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,000
and the. 3rd kid, you know, I
mean, hey, you're letting.

1162
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,240
Them lick the go for it, yeah.
Like, you know, here go stick

1163
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,760
this plastic knife in an outlet
and and see what happens.

1164
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,760
Like experiment Bill Nye.
I don't know, I just found that

1165
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,480
like hysterical, like really
funny, but also a little bit

1166
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,560
sad.
Like, how bad of a mom did she

1167
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,080
have to be for that to be
because they were not.

1168
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,680
It look like a fun cookout.
Like they're making frozen

1169
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,360
margs.
Dad's doing backflips on the

1170
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,000
trampoline.
It's a good time.

1171
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,200
I made me.
Yeah.

1172
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,080
I mean as far as the set piece
that goes though the scene is

1173
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,040
really fun, right?
I think it.

1174
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,680
Doesn't really my favorite in
the movie.

1175
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,440
I think it does a really good
job of a kind of pointing out

1176
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,880
like a setting up like, you
know, that's the classic, you

1177
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,720
know, final destination set
pieces.

1178
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:21,120
Like you focus in on a couple
minute details and be like, OK,

1179
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,560
what's it gonna be?
You know, so I like the the, the

1180
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,440
glass in the in the ice, which
you can tell none of them worked

1181
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,480
in a bar because everyone knows
you burn the ice if there's a

1182
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,200
broken glass anywhere.
So none of those siblings that

1183
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,080
worked at a bar anywhere.
Did they know there was broken

1184
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,160
glass though?
Well, no, yeah, He, he, he ran

1185
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,600
away.
Yeah, he broke the glass and

1186
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,560
then he cleaned it up and he
just like, and he just wiped it

1187
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,560
onto the ground.
But it's like everyone knows,

1188
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,360
like even if it doesn't break in
your ice, well, you do it

1189
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,080
anyways.
So it's like that.

1190
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,560
That's like a funny thing that I
know a lot of service people are

1191
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,680
probably.
So it's like it, it catches

1192
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,120
people on that.
And then like some of the other

1193
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,200
like all the lawn care stuff,
the rake under the trampoline.

1194
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,160
Yeah, Yeah, a lot of really
great.

1195
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:08,160
I thought no.
Net.

1196
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,120
Having no net on the trampoline
either.

1197
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,760
Like if someone there's a
trampoline in our backyard, like

1198
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,680
that's a recipe for a broken
arm.

1199
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,000
Not having a net surrounding
your trampoline.

1200
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,560
Did did you guys like also like
find yourself like trying to

1201
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,600
guess who it was going to be too
'cause I was just like, I was

1202
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,880
like, no, because there was.
Getting away in the trailer.

1203
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,960
I didn't watch it now I didn't
see the trailer, thank goodness.

1204
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,359
Yeah, the the trailer actually
gave away too, the different

1205
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:38,720
ones.
I mean, it, it, it's the one of

1206
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,399
the first trailer was the
entirety, almost the entirety of

1207
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:46,520
the tattoo parlor scene.
Oh, I didn't see that.

1208
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,040
I did not see that thing.
And then and then the second one

1209
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:57,240
was the the cookout and it all
the way to the lawnmower come.

1210
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,439
Why would you do that?
Yeah, it was.

1211
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,359
So it was like.
Goodness, I don't watch trailers

1212
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,600
cuz yeah like why do that?
Couldn't have, couldn't avoid

1213
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,359
them.
You know, if we go and see a few

1214
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:09,439
movies, yeah.
Even with that one being in the

1215
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,200
trailer it's still my favorite
just because again of the build

1216
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,600
up.
Like, I know exactly how it's

1217
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,319
gonna turn out.
And, you know, it didn't give

1218
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:20,000
away everything, every beat.
So there was a lot still going

1219
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,920
on in it that was fun to watch.
I mean, and like we have said,

1220
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,319
you know, the the death itself
is almost a punchline, but the

1221
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:31,000
joke is how long it takes to get
there.

1222
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Exactly.
And so, yeah, that's part of the

1223
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,680
fun of these anyway.
So it didn't really necessarily

1224
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,000
detract from me liking that
scene or anything.

1225
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,560
I, I know the monkey wasn't
trying to be a Final Destination

1226
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,040
movie, but it might as well have
been.

1227
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,000
And watching that movie like
highlights again, like what

1228
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,680
makes these movies work?
And for, at least for me, what

1229
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,440
didn't make that movie work
'cause there was no build up,

1230
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,520
there was no holding on
anything.

1231
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,640
There was no misdirection.
It was like, OK, you see that a

1232
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,800
hornet's nest that somebody's
gonna get Hornets in their

1233
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,920
mouth.
Like, you know, it's like it was

1234
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,440
kind of what was versus in this,
It's like you get enough of like

1235
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:15,720
the OK, like you keep thinking
somebody got swallowed the the

1236
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,960
piece of glass.
No, it goes in somebody's foot.

1237
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,720
Like, you know, like the the
slight things like that.

1238
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,040
So like again, this scene I
think is a really great like a

1239
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,600
very strong showcase.
Again, like what makes this

1240
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,600
franchise work?
Because like, you know, we,

1241
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:34,840
we've seen them do this kind of
structured type of scene many a

1242
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,680
times.
And this one is, is really fun.

1243
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,840
Agreed.
I really enjoyed the monkey like

1244
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,800
I went, I saw that twice as
well.

1245
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,080
But I will say like after seeing
this in theaters, I can say that

1246
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,040
like one maybe knock on the
monkey is that there is a snark

1247
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,240
to it.
There is like this sort of like

1248
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,520
Osgood Perkins is almost like
sneering at the audience a bit

1249
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,480
for kind of enjoying this.
Like you guys should really be

1250
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,200
above this at this point where
Final Destination films like

1251
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,720
this one in particular, it seems
like we want to bring people

1252
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,720
under the umbrella.
Like they embrace how silly and

1253
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:17,000
goofy these movies are with a
couple things that stood out

1254
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,920
like little lines like Bobby
when they're walking to the car

1255
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,240
and they're going slow and he's
like too fast.

1256
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,360
Just like it's a small line.
But it popped to me like I just

1257
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,680
laughed my ass off.
And then the whole reveal with

1258
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:34,280
like the idea like, well, how
come he didn't die?

1259
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,840
Why did it skip over him?
And you have this like General

1260
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,480
Hospital slash guide days of our
lives, like last minute reveal

1261
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:47,960
that like Eric is a bastard son
from Brenda's affair when she

1262
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,280
and Uncle Howie, who's like the
most dude, yes, like that's

1263
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,920
amazing.
Like that was out of nowhere.

1264
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,240
Like you know what you're in for
when that is the reveal.

1265
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,280
I love that so much is.
That why you always wanted to

1266
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,840
play catch.
That was that.

1267
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,160
Was a fucking great line.
Such a great line.

1268
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,680
Shout Richard Harmon.
He's been in a few genre things

1269
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,960
at least.
I know him from Grave Encounters

1270
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:20,880
Part 2 if anybody saw that one.
But yeah, and because they kind

1271
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,200
of already have this like kind
of an interesting like blended

1272
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,200
family and stuff.
So it's like you already didn't

1273
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,640
know who was related and stuff.
But then like so that reveal I

1274
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,560
thought was funny and also found
this nation does the franchise

1275
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:37,360
does an interesting thing where
they like infantilize characters

1276
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:43,600
in a way because like like Eric,
Bobby and and Julia like these

1277
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,440
are I'm like they're obviously
adults, but they also kind of

1278
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,880
act like teenagers.
They all live at the house with

1279
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,320
their parents, especially Bobby.
Like Bobby is literally acting

1280
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,960
like a 12 year old in this
movie.

1281
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,360
And like, because they do that
in a final destination too with

1282
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,640
that one kid, you know, like
acts like an like 8 year old and

1283
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,280
you're like.
Oh, this is chasing the pigeons.

1284
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,160
Yeah, so this franchise does
this a few times and like so

1285
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,120
like I like in this and it's
just like, wait, how old are any

1286
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,640
of these?
Like, are they children?

1287
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,320
Are they adults?
Like, you guys are kind of dumb.

1288
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:17,200
Yeah.
You guys have a?

1289
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,760
Turtle they can't.
They don't seem to have any

1290
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,480
other friends like outside of
their own group of three and the

1291
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,000
other cousins like right?
Just like Eric is like a tattoo

1292
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,920
artist and a piercing artist.
So he's at least in his like mid

1293
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,040
20s, like, you know, but at the
same time, like I love the shot

1294
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,000
of him walking down the street
in the morning with his juice

1295
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,000
box.
I'm like again.

1296
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,040
I'm like, how old are they?
And then, like when he's like

1297
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,680
licking a garbage truck, like,
look, even if death isn't out to

1298
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,640
kill you, like do you know,
unsanitary, at the very least,

1299
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,360
you're going to get like the
worst diarrhea ever.

1300
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:02,400
Like, so that is so unpleasant.
And it's like right after the

1301
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,000
dad dies and he's so jolly
again, Like, one thing about

1302
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,880
this movie is like, everybody
seems to get over the deaths of

1303
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,880
their loved ones, like, very,
very quickly like.

1304
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,560
Just cut to another funeral.
But I also thought that was part

1305
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,520
of the joke.
That's part of what struck me as

1306
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,080
really funny.
And I same it understood the IT

1307
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:28,560
it understands the assignment as
the kids say, you know, it's. 3

1308
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,520
does that, 3 has a recurring bit
where they're just like, I'm

1309
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,400
getting real tired of going to
funerals.

1310
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:38,560
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know if, like, I should

1311
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,720
feel sympathy for Aunt Brenda
and we should go check on her

1312
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,680
and make sure she's OK.
Or is she like the worst monster

1313
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,960
in the movie?
Because she explicitly goes

1314
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:54,600
against like, her husband, like
Uncle Howard's like, please,

1315
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,120
nothing to do with my mom, like
just bad juju.

1316
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,920
Don't do it.
And she's like, by the way, if

1317
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,120
you look at the bottom drawer of
the kitchen desk, you'll not

1318
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,240
find anything there.
And then it just like, brings

1319
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,000
about all the destruction of her
whole family.

1320
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,400
Like, I don't know, like, and
what I do love is like her, all

1321
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:21,240
her three children die, her
husband dies in horrible,

1322
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,280
horrible deaths, and then like,
she's completely ridden out of

1323
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,320
the film and we never check on
her again.

1324
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,400
Like she.
She just went back to Jerry for

1325
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,120
comfort.
That's.

1326
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,240
All Jerry.
I think what we have to assume.

1327
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,520
Happened.
Jerry played the long game.

1328
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,080
That's it.
Well, they did this with

1329
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,680
Stephanie and Charlie's dad too,
and they revealed that like he,

1330
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,920
well, he's safe because he's not
part of the bloodline.

1331
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,560
He like literally is like all
right, bye.

1332
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,520
And then literally pieces out
for the rest.

1333
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,880
Of going for a walk.
He, yeah, he goes.

1334
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,040
I'm going for a walk to let off
some steam any day.

1335
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,720
Come back.
That's actually a low key great

1336
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,280
joke.
I didn't even think about that.

1337
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,520
That's really funny.
Yeah, the.

1338
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,120
Only thing that would have been
better is if he went out for a

1339
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,800
pack of smokes.
Yeah, exactly.

1340
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,960
The hospital, I think you
mentioned, Yvonne, like the

1341
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,000
hospital set pieces are
brilliant.

1342
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,280
We should talk a little bit
about Tony Todd.

1343
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,480
Like this is his last on screen
role of one thing about his

1344
01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:19,280
performance here, like it's in a
movie that's very, very funny.

1345
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:24,680
Like his scene is very poignant.
I think there's been a lot said

1346
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,840
where like he wasn't necessarily
scripted in the scene, but they

1347
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,640
said like, this is like the
blueprint of what you got to get

1348
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,720
across to move the story along.
And then you can say whatever

1349
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,400
you want and it's obvious like
looking at him and this.

1350
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,320
And he was very ill at the time
and passed away shortly

1351
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,600
thereafter because he was just
like a a bear of a man.

1352
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,880
Just I remember I remember like
bumping into him at the New York

1353
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,480
City Horror Film Fest and like
2010, like he was there as a

1354
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:58,360
special guest and I was standing
outside and he stood next to me

1355
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,880
and like one of like the largest
men I've ever been near.

1356
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:09,680
Like just in to see him here.
Like it's sad, but his, his his

1357
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,280
words at the end, like we don't
know when death is coming for

1358
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,200
us.
Like I'm tired of waiting for

1359
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,160
it.
Like I'm going to enjoy whatever

1360
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,800
time you I have left is like a
really in a very fun, silly

1361
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,120
movie, like a very beautiful
message.

1362
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,520
Yeah, I.
Mean that's sort of the, I guess

1363
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,360
the thematic thread of all of
these because you have so many,

1364
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,240
especially in the sequels, you
have people living in constant

1365
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,200
fear of death where they, you
know, lock themselves in rooms

1366
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,360
or in this case in this movie,
in a cabin.

1367
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:46,040
Now, granted, she has her
reasoning is to keep herself

1368
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:53,800
alive so that her children and
grandchildren can live, but at

1369
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,080
what cost?
I mean, at what cost are am I

1370
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,680
keeping myself alive to, you
know, I'm not really living.

1371
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:05,160
And I think that I think that's
sort of the underlying sort of,

1372
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:11,600
you know, really powerful and
effective message of these

1373
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,320
movies in general is you got to
live.

1374
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:19,280
You can't live in constant fear
of death because you'll end up

1375
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,120
like, you know, clear waters or
whatever, clear rivers,

1376
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,280
whatever.
What is her name?

1377
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,520
Clear rivers, yeah.
Yeah, you know, living in a

1378
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,320
padded room, you know, with
pictures all over the wall or

1379
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,720
get hit by a brick off screen,
like.

1380
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,840
In her defense, the minute she
decides to choose life again in

1381
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,960
the perlance of Trainspotting 2
days later, she explodes So.

1382
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,200
Yeah.
Well, The thing is, it kind of

1383
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,600
undermines its own themes.
You know, this movie has a has,

1384
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,800
I mean, horror movies do that
all the time, you know, I mean.

1385
01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:56,720
I thought the theme was like
Aunt Brenda kind of a hoe.

1386
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,080
Like I thought it was the theme
of this movie.

1387
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,080
Is that a theme or is that more
of a mode too?

1388
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,440
No, I but the other major
recurring theme in these movies

1389
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:11,280
is, is the omnipresence of death
and the uncertainty of

1390
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,760
everything.
So the I the notion that, yeah,

1391
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,320
you can decide to live, but you,
you're going to get killed two

1392
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,520
days later.
Like that's, that's part of

1393
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,440
that.
And, and I like, you know,

1394
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,760
obviously like it's very
poignant for this to be Tony

1395
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,800
Todd's, you know, one of his
last performances.

1396
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,560
And and I think it you know, not
only for, you know, obviously

1397
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,320
real life, it also like even him
just being in this franchise and

1398
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,040
like, and even within the story,
like there's always been the

1399
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,160
theories.
Oh, is he the Grim Reaper?

1400
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,080
Is he death?
Is he the, you know, whatever,

1401
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,440
does he know more than other
people let on?

1402
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:46,680
And then with, you know,
obviously this being Tony Todd,

1403
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,160
you know, kind of him, his
health decline and everything

1404
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,960
and his character retiring and
then like being like confirming.

1405
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,240
And it's just like, no, like
this person that like you can

1406
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,280
build it, you know, mess up
about somebody in your head, but

1407
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,440
at the end of the day, they're
still human that are also going

1408
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:02,200
to die.
So I think.

1409
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,840
That, you know, kind of
translates in with Tony Todd and

1410
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,320
his his legacy within the horror
genre of just being like, you

1411
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,480
know, like we, you know, we
think that these people are

1412
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:13,680
untouchable, you know, because
we have seen them on screen and

1413
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,400
with such power and gravitas and
everything.

1414
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,560
And we think that, Oh no,
they're not going to die.

1415
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,400
Like, of course not.
Like, you know, like so whenever

1416
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,560
you know, you get kind of hit
with that reality.

1417
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,680
Like like Mike said, like I, I
remember meeting him and he is

1418
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,320
as a big hulking man.
And then when you see him in

1419
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,400
this film and you know, he is
mainly sitting down for this and

1420
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,640
it's just like, wow.
Like, you know, like, again,

1421
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,480
like people, everyone is human.
It's gonna come for everybody in

1422
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:42,520
one way or another.
And so it was, it was, it was

1423
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:43,880
very nice.
It was very beautiful.

1424
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,120
And I think a a nice way to
cement his legacy within the

1425
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,400
genre community.
Yeah, definitely.

1426
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,440
He the the, his presence cannot
be understated.

1427
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:58,200
His impact on the horror genre
cannot be understated, so to to

1428
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,920
to have him be able to deliver a
truly appropriate swan song in

1429
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,840
this movie was I it?
It brought me to tears in the

1430
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,400
theater.
I I don't mind admitting it.

1431
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,000
Yeah, I mean, he was like a
little bit more than like, Stan

1432
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,160
Lee cameos.
Like he wasn't necessarily,

1433
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,040
like, essential in anything.
Part 3.

1434
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,320
It's only his voice.
Like he's the voice of the

1435
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,120
roller coaster, the devil's
horn.

1436
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,680
I think it is.
But it's like he would pop up

1437
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,800
and you're like, there he is.
Like there's bloodhorn.

1438
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,040
And it was like fascinating to
seek.

1439
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,640
So he'd play like a different,
so have like a different sort of

1440
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,200
role in each one.
And yet he's always the same.

1441
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,680
And I kind of really liked that,
like that idea.

1442
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:43,400
Also, that he was and that he
was a person that got saved in a

1443
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,120
premonition is cool for that as
well.

1444
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,760
Yeah, that.
Was I just called that little

1445
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,920
kid?
I was like, there's Tony.

1446
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,840
That's that's little Tony Todd.
Yeah, I, I, I remember

1447
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,680
whispering that.
I remember whispering that to my

1448
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,720
son.
It's like, Oh my gosh, it's Tony

1449
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,160
Todd.
So we'll be honest, I did not

1450
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,280
make that connection.
I'm a, I'm a dumb, dumb.

1451
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,400
And I thought, oh, it's the
singer.

1452
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:09,600
Yeah.
I thought something like that,

1453
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,440
too.
Guys sing and shout.

1454
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:12,040
That's Tony Todd's character.
Yeah.

1455
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:18,000
Oh man, another thing I really
liked was Eric and Bobby's

1456
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,600
debate of whether or not they
should murder a baby in order.

1457
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,000
To sing.
Amazing.

1458
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,440
Amazing shot.
Because like the the fact that

1459
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:32,720
they have a read that reaction
shot with like, wow, the little

1460
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:37,560
shoulder shrug, then no, but
it's like to me like that's good

1461
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,440
comedy right there.
That is good comedy.

1462
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,440
I, I really like the, the way
they worked in Bobby's peanut

1463
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:48,800
allergy because you know, when
you think about certain people

1464
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,360
that have those allergies and
usually when they have them,

1465
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,640
they are like super serious and
fatal.

1466
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,720
And the whole EpiPen situation.
They and these are people that

1467
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,280
like, do you have to live in
slight caution, you know,

1468
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,120
because they have to be aware
of, you know, what's in their

1469
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,760
food and drinks and things like
that.

1470
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,600
So like the fact that they, you
know, take that to the next

1471
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,280
step.
But then that's also the thing

1472
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:14,320
that they try to use to, to pull
a reverse Uno on death.

1473
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,560
I think is really interesting.
Like I, I really like it.

1474
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,760
Just like kind of the whole
tension of this, of this

1475
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,240
hospital scene with, you know,
setting up.

1476
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,160
And I like, I like him choosing
what candy bar with peanut

1477
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,680
butter in he wants, right.
Yeah, He's like, he's like, no,

1478
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,040
don't do the he's like, don't do
the crackers and peanut butter.

1479
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,560
He's like.
Let me get the candy nuts.

1480
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,480
Yeah, the unsalted nuts, that's
what I want is like, I'm not

1481
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:40,080
going out on unsalted nuts.
As soon as that gets brought up

1482
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,280
at the BBQ scene, I'm like, OK,
that's coming back.

1483
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,240
And I I figured that was going
to be how death got him, like,

1484
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,840
you know, a ricocheted peanut
into his drink or something

1485
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,960
later in the movie.
I will say this franchise has no

1486
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,000
idea how hospital equipment
tends to work.

1487
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,680
Apparently if you, if you turn
it up high enough, it will like

1488
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,600
completely like because it's in
five, I think when she's doing

1489
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,440
the LASIK surgery and then it
like gets cranked up and it

1490
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:13,600
like, it starts like like
scorching her eye and face and

1491
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,080
shit.
And then there's not really

1492
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,960
hospital equipment, but the
tanning bed seen in three, like

1493
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,000
come on.
And then you've got this the the

1494
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,560
MRI machine, like if you turn
and if you leave an MRI on for

1495
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,560
long enough, it will completely
disrupt operations at a

1496
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,560
hospital.
Well, they try.

1497
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,920
Well, they, they tried doing a
thing that, I don't know, maybe

1498
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,640
was like 4 people trying to
nitpick like the household stuff

1499
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,320
because they have a thing out
where it's like, oh, it can't go

1500
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,480
past this level and except for
research purposes.

1501
01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:45,720
But then it's like, oh wait,
the, the, the thing fell onto

1502
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,680
the two key locks and now up now
it's super mode is unlocked.

1503
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,520
Yeah.
I don't know if I want a

1504
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,520
Mythbusters The Final
Destination movies because I

1505
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,160
just feel something would go
horribly wrong.

1506
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:03,000
But I do appreciate Stevens beef
with them is like the the

1507
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,840
vermicilitude.
It's just not there with these

1508
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,360
films.
Like it's just not.

1509
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,920
I mean, there's this suspension
of disbelief that I'm willing,

1510
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,160
I'm willing to suspend my
disbelief because these movies

1511
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,840
are so damn fun.
I just yeah, it it just.

1512
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,120
I think it's worth noting.
Well, I mean, it's like it's

1513
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,600
like a.
Checklist we can you know little

1514
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,800
To Do List today John, Steven,
Julia well.

1515
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,640
I mean, it's like we know, OK,
logs don't bounce if they fall

1516
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,760
off of a log truck, you know,
for example.

1517
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,120
But who cares?
I mean, that's part of the it's

1518
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:41,800
part of the fun.
Death is like, I'm just going to

1519
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,760
fuck with these people in the
most interesting way I can.

1520
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,000
I got to keep myself entertained
here.

1521
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,520
Exactly.
After all.

1522
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:53,520
So I know that log trucks don't
that logs don't bounce off of

1523
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,000
trucks.
I know that MRI machines don't

1524
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,760
go up that high, but I don't
care.

1525
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,160
I'm going to make it happen
anyway.

1526
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,480
I'm deaf.
So there we go.

1527
01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:04,120
That's that's there's your
suspension of disbelief.

1528
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,280
It's death.
Also never wanted a Prince

1529
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,400
Albert less than like.
That was one of the funniest

1530
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:14,000
bits of that moment.
Like when Eric's Johnson just

1531
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,760
starts getting poked.
Yeah.

1532
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,440
I didn't think it could get
funnier than the nipple rings.

1533
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:20,440
And then we get the Prince.
Albert and yeah, gone.

1534
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,840
It was as soon as I saw the
nipples, I was like, I was like,

1535
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,800
oh please, please tell me he's
got one.

1536
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,880
Yes, yes he does.
And everybody started clapping.

1537
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,160
And Eric is 100% the kind of guy
who.

1538
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:36,560
Would have of course, of course.
But yeah, that was I, I really

1539
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,320
liked the the like inverted like
like little like a back break.

1540
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:46,200
It's pretty gnarly.
Nice little homage to the what,

1541
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,720
Final Destination 4 poster.
You know, where he's got the

1542
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:56,040
skull tattoo on his stomach and
the stuff and the, you know,

1543
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,160
bars the wheelchair come through
him.

1544
01:26:58,200 --> 01:26:58,720
Yeah.
Yeah.

1545
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,080
That was that was some, some
nice touches like that were

1546
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,760
yeah, were fun to see.
I mean, they they weren't, they

1547
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,000
were Easter eggs, but they
weren't like heavy-handed Easter

1548
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,560
eggs like you see in so many
movies.

1549
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,400
Yeah.
It's not the over the top fan.

1550
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,040
Service it's not Ghostbusters
afterlife they.

1551
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:18,000
The you have the log the logging
truck go by at one point like.

1552
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,600
A yeah, yeah, yeah.
She got Stephanie, saw it and

1553
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,600
goes, oh, I bet.
I guess something bad's about to

1554
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,200
happen.
So I guess don't know is this

1555
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,280
running concurrently with two?
We don't really know.

1556
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:31,720
We see iPhones in this, don't
we?

1557
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,040
Can't.
Remember, we do, Yeah, it's a

1558
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,600
modern.
I think it's modern times what

1559
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,920
we're meant to.
I feel like you can only do the

1560
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,600
twist of five one time.
Yeah, you can only do that once

1561
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,240
per franchise.
Yeah, of course.

1562
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:45,920
Go ahead.
Like.

1563
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,360
Go ahead, Devon.
I was just going to say, I know

1564
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,200
we touched on it, but I, I did
want to say that the, the

1565
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:57,200
piercing shop scene is one of
the few like total fake outs

1566
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,600
because obviously, like, you
know, certain scenes are known

1567
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,640
for being like, OK, we'll fake
you out a couple times, but

1568
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,480
eventually the person's going to
get it.

1569
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:07,000
I like that this is like the
first, like complete total.

1570
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,840
Like a person goes through an
entire final destination set

1571
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,760
piece and then comes out a lot.
I thought, I thought that was an

1572
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,800
interesting little twist.
And again, I'm glad I didn't

1573
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,480
watch the trailer because like I
felt.

1574
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,440
Like it didn't give away works,
yeah.

1575
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:23,000
Even though that still works,
but I'm glad I got like the full

1576
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,320
like appreciation like I
thought, I thought that was a

1577
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,960
really fun, fun set piece.
I, I'm sorry, go ahead.

1578
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:35,240
Mike no, I just say great choice
of music for that backdrop as

1579
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,280
well throughout that whole scene
with I Can't Live Without You.

1580
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,360
Right, this, this this movie
does a really good job with the

1581
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,760
music.
Like the the the song choices in

1582
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,520
the soundtrack are very
meticulously chosen and it shows

1583
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,000
for sure.
I really like it.

1584
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,280
I know this is probably like no
one's favorite kill in this

1585
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,920
movie, but I really love the the
the lead up to the compactor

1586
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,640
kill because it all plays out in
the background of the shot.

1587
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,640
And I'm a sucker for like people
having a conversation in the

1588
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,240
foreground and insane shit going
on behind them and they're just

1589
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,440
not noticing.
I I buy into that every time

1590
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:13,280
hook, line and sinker.
So the fact that we set it up

1591
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,320
earlier when she's walking by,
well, this could happen in this

1592
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:16,760
case.
And then we see it all play out,

1593
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,080
exactly what she said, but in
the deep background, like barely

1594
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,800
in focus is just just so fucking
perfect.

1595
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,480
And just again, a great way to
highlight and to do something

1596
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,720
different with this, with this
franchise as well.

1597
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,840
Julie, they like doinked right
into the trash.

1598
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,400
Can it's?
Just brilliant.

1599
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,800
It's just really and like you
have the, you have like the,

1600
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,840
the, the driver, just like
listening to Chumbawumba.

1601
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,880
I think it's.
Wiping right the whole like he's

1602
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:52,440
living his best life, like he
really is absolutely and not

1603
01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:55,560
paying attention to anything.
Not even the load really.

1604
01:29:55,720 --> 01:30:00,320
Yeah, it's that was really fun.
Like that whole scene I what I

1605
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,440
thought was going to happen
because you had the fake out

1606
01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:05,440
with like Eric, like they're
like they hit Eric with their

1607
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:10,600
car almost and he's like that is
juice box when he's like

1608
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:15,160
taunting them and the and the
truck drives by super fast.

1609
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,600
I thought it was going to be
like another like one of my.

1610
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,080
Like the bus?
Yeah, like.

1611
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:23,280
First one like you can drop dead
and then the bus nails into her.

1612
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:24,960
I thought they were going to do
that.

1613
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,560
It's another little tip of the
cap to like other Final

1614
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,680
Destination movies that I really
enjoy.

1615
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:37,360
But again, listeners, do not
lick garbage trucks, please.

1616
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,880
We, we, we are all about fucking
them kids and not like, hold on,

1617
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:47,160
we're all about fuck them kids.
That came out really wrong.

1618
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,560
All right, this is my last
episode.

1619
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,880
Thanks, everybody.
Have a great night.

1620
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,840
It's been great being on this
podcast.

1621
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,440
Bye everybody.
Between Ariel saying let teenage

1622
01:30:58,440 --> 01:31:02,240
girls be horny on the Nosferatu
episode and that.

1623
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,320
We're all about fucking kids and
not licking garbage trucks is

1624
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,160
what I was.
Trying the two things this show

1625
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,120
is about.
That's really the hallmarks.

1626
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,360
That's our tenth holes around
which we've built.

1627
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,400
That's our ethos.
Good God, I I.

1628
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,760
Oh, that was incredible.
Well, I'd say let's end there.

1629
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,640
But I have one more thing I I
don't know that would have been

1630
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:28,360
you couldn't have saved it for 4
minutes, Steven Michael because

1631
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:29,840
that would have been the perfect
ending.

1632
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,960
I mean, we can just cut that and
put that at the end if you want,

1633
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,880
if you really want.
I think we'll re cut that into

1634
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,640
the fee please.
Please don't put that on the

1635
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,600
sound boards.
Let's ask.

1636
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,520
I wasn't thinking that, but now
that you've mentioned it, fuck.

1637
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,480
I mean, what's?
Georgie Scott when you need him.

1638
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,760
My God, Georgie Scott will
always be there when you need

1639
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,240
him.
My God, that won't stop.

1640
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,640
So.
Charlie's prom date.

1641
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,680
I think it's Jenny.
Charlie's prom date.

1642
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:13,120
Does her father get he and
Caitlin killed by like, well,

1643
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,840
actually like his, like, heroic
rescue of his sister?

1644
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,160
Like, he's like, well, I have to
show I'm the big boy here.

1645
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,760
He's like, you didn't really
save her life, you know,

1646
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,480
technically speaking.
And then shit goes haywire.

1647
01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:31,320
Like if he just kept his mouth
shut, it was like, hey, it was

1648
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,680
really cool.
You saved your sister.

1649
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,960
Well, actually, them and Death
was just literally waiting

1650
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,680
around the corner.
Death is a petty bitch and he

1651
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,640
was waiting for that moment and
AS.

1652
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,840
Soon as he heard that, he goes,
fuck yeah, I've got these

1653
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,960
motherfuckers.
Yeah, I thought that was

1654
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,360
actually, I thought that was
pretty interesting because I was

1655
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:52,680
like, Oh my God, makes a point
there.

1656
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,640
But this fucking train scene
looks stupid.

1657
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,280
I'm sorry.
This was awful after already the

1658
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,280
wet fart of the like climax at
the at grandma's house.

1659
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,480
Yeah, I thought this train thing
was silly.

1660
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:09,280
We've already we already did
that kind of with the subway.

1661
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,800
So we're gonna now do it again
with now another train.

1662
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,000
And it looked like garbage, like
the green screen on it looked so

1663
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,920
bad.
So I hated this final scene.

1664
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,320
Tell that neither Charlie or
Caitlin had ever seen Prometheus

1665
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:27,480
because they just run straight
as opposed to like we've go to

1666
01:33:27,480 --> 01:33:32,800
the side of it like that is so.
I think there are two things in

1667
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,360
particular that CGI does really,
really bad.

1668
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,320
One of them is fire.
We can never figure it out.

1669
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,800
Yeah, figure fire out.
The other thing is blood.

1670
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,760
And so ending with the logs
falling on them in the blood.

1671
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,680
It was just like it.
It was just like it.

1672
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:53,400
It looks like it's terrible.
It was kind of a let down of an

1673
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,480
ending after how much fun we'd
had up to that point.

1674
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:01,000
Yeah, I mean, I know that, like
I said, horror movies, I feel

1675
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:05,320
like they always have to
undermine everything that they

1676
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,160
are about in the last sequence
because you have to, ever since

1677
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,840
Carrie, you have to send them
out with a bang, right?

1678
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,040
So that's why we have the shitty
ending to Nightmare on Elm

1679
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,120
Street.
That's why we have, you know,

1680
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:20,400
things like that that just kind
of undermine everything that

1681
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,200
happened before in the movie.
And that's kind of how I feel

1682
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:29,200
feel about this closing scene.
But, you know, at the same time

1683
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,720
and with a bang, I get it.
But.

1684
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:32,800
It's a.
Fun.

1685
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,200
It's a more fan service.
Yeah, it's a fun gag.

1686
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,240
Like I think that's a fun gag
with the log.

1687
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,120
They're like, oh, we escaped
that train and then the log

1688
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,400
comes flying over.
Like, yeah, that to me is funny,

1689
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:48,760
but it's just not executed with
a lot of skill or grace.

1690
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,720
But overall, like, it doesn't
detract too much from me for,

1691
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,360
like, I this is the longest of
the final death.

1692
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,120
I mean, it's nearly two hours.
It's pretty long, yeah.

1693
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,360
There are points like when she
first goes to Uncle Howard's

1694
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,400
house, it feels like they are in
a Howard Hawks movie because

1695
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:13,680
everyone's talking so fast.
They're like slow down.

1696
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,960
Like they're just like dumping
like 30 years of exposition in

1697
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,160
30 seconds.
It's a little bit crazy.

1698
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,440
That was it for me.
Do we have anything else before

1699
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:25,840
we wrap things up?
No, I don't know.

1700
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,160
I think I think from like it,
it's interesting because like

1701
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:33,600
again, like coming back after 14
years since since the last one,

1702
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,240
I think the structure kind of
reflects it in that it's like,

1703
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:41,240
OK, the first like bit like is
it's a little wonky getting its

1704
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,240
pudding in the first like 30
minutes or so.

1705
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:47,000
But then like from the BBQ to
the through the hospital, like

1706
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,360
that chunk that's a solid final
destination movie right there.

1707
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,480
Like that chunk right there is
like good final destination

1708
01:35:53,480 --> 01:35:55,720
stuff.
And then after the hospital, it

1709
01:35:55,720 --> 01:36:00,280
gets wonky again, you know, But,
you know, so but we're back.

1710
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,560
That's all that matters.
Final Destination is back.

1711
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,720
We are, you know, we're totally
got another one, apparently.

1712
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,040
Like, apparently to the
directors, they said that

1713
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,160
they're not going to rush it,
though.

1714
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,120
They said that these take a lot
of time.

1715
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,120
So yeah, like, they don't have
to turn them out, a bunch of

1716
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,680
them.
As long as I know another one's

1717
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,120
coming, I'll be happy.
I'm right there with you.

1718
01:36:19,480 --> 01:36:20,080
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

1719
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:24,240
We'll be back in a couple years
with Final Destination 7.

1720
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,680
It'll be kind of.
Where do you guys want them to

1721
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,600
go next?
I want I I I thought a cruise

1722
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,240
ship would be fun.
Oh, that could be a lot of fun.

1723
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:33,960
Cruise ship could be really
good.

1724
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:38,600
That could be great, yeah.
Like deep sea exploration, like

1725
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,440
I mean, I know we had like the
whole, you know, submarine

1726
01:36:42,440 --> 01:36:44,840
caving in on itself a couple
years ago.

1727
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,640
Like something in the deep sea
might be a lot of fun when you

1728
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,480
get into.
But that's already inherently

1729
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:52,520
dangerous, right?
Needs to be more.

1730
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,720
Needs to be more mundane.
We need to be at Well, what's

1731
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,440
the most mundane place we can
think of at A at?

1732
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,120
A library like.
In Arby's, Yeah, just.

1733
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:07,440
Well, that's not believable
because that would be so hungry

1734
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:11,040
they would eat at Arby's.
Send it like the DMVI don't know

1735
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,640
like what else?
That's my favorite Simpsons

1736
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,880
line.
Yeah, I'm so hungry I can eat at

1737
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,920
Arby's anyway.
I thought your I thought your

1738
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,880
favorite Simpsons line was on my
grind.

1739
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,560
No, it's it's I'm so hungry I
need an Arby's.

1740
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,160
I did have an idea though,
inspired off of Tony Todd's like

1741
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,680
final scene.
I guess that would be in line a

1742
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,480
little bit more with Mike.
So going against what I just

1743
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:37,560
said, but like, I think it'd be
interesting to see one that

1744
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,880
follows like characters that are
like, like maybe adrenaline

1745
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,480
junkies or like the people that
like, you know, are like, I

1746
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:47,600
wanna see people like going out
like challenging death.

1747
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,560
Like cuz you know, cuz again, I
think we've gotten 6 Movies Now

1748
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,120
of like at the end of the day,
like death comes from resolve.

1749
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,360
You have to accept death.
And it's like, OK, so like, why

1750
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,520
don't we get some people that
are like living, you know, their

1751
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,320
life to their fullest and like
kind of challenging deaths.

1752
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:05,040
There could be like a lot more
like fake outs with like certain

1753
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,840
things, I don't know.
And that would be a great twist

1754
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,840
on the franchise premise,
honestly.

1755
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,880
Yeah, in a really interesting
way.

1756
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,800
I and I liked that first
responder idea that we had

1757
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:16,800
mentioned.
Earlier, what if it's death

1758
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:21,720
saving people in convoluted ways
like like the people that like

1759
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,760
hang from buildings and stuff
and then one somebody slips, but

1760
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,680
then death like somehow catches
them is like, no, no, no, I

1761
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:32,400
didn't say you could go out yet.
Elementary school might be fun.

1762
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,640
Dark.
That's pretty dark.

1763
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,480
What about the circus?
You know, like.

1764
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:39,680
Circus.
Are there still circuses?

1765
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,040
I was about to say, are there
still circuses anymore?

1766
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,560
Well hey, this could be one of
those period piece things.

1767
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,200
True.
It's like going on at the same

1768
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:51,800
time as freaks.
I don't know if the CGI animals

1769
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:56,040
would look good given the track
record, so it's not a bad idea

1770
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,400
though.
I like the time travel idea.

1771
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,400
I like going back to the 70s or
the 80s, like within within the

1772
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,560
framework we established in this
movie doing like a punk Rock,

1773
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:10,120
You know, a punk scene 1 and
kind of some underground clubs

1774
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:14,160
or some shit in the 80s.
Mean a music festival like a

1775
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:18,880
Coachella or a Lollapalooza.
I think that was an idea at one

1776
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:22,000
point, but you could do
something with that for sure

1777
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,720
that.
'D be a great opening set piece

1778
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,920
honestly.
It's a music festival for one of

1779
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,640
these for sure.
We are asking about best

1780
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,800
Bloodlines movies.
Was there like a direct to video

1781
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,720
Care Bear sequel like Bloodlines
where the Care Bears?

1782
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,080
No, but maybe I just dreamed
that.

1783
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:40,600
All right.
I can think of.

1784
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:45,840
Well, Speaking of dreams, folks,
what do we all have to plug?

1785
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:50,040
What is coming up on everyone's
plate, Steven?

1786
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,680
What's going on with
disenfranchised?

1787
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:57,520
Disenfranchised we were.
We actually have recorded almost

1788
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:01,280
everything for June.
I think one of the with to

1789
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:05,040
coincide with Methreegan 2 point
O we're doing the Chris White's

1790
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,200
film A Fray ID.
It was one of the.

1791
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,000
Few horror movies I.
Skipped last year, yeah.

1792
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,040
So we're we're covering, we're
getting ready to cover that one,

1793
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,640
but we just.
Recently covered I'm not sure

1794
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,520
when this is dropping, but we
did Joe Dante's Inner Space,

1795
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:25,160
which is oh, I love that movie
great movie and then we.

1796
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:26,480
What did we cover before that?
A reign of.

1797
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:30,120
Fire to to go along with the new
How to Train Your Dragons movie.

1798
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,760
I have since the last time I've
been on.

1799
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,440
I started another podcast
because like Devon, I just have

1800
01:40:36,440 --> 01:40:40,600
to keep podcasting or, you know,
if I don't keep the podcast

1801
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:44,200
machine going at several
episodes a month, I, my heart

1802
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,440
will stop.
But I I'm started a podcast

1803
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:51,240
called Wells University with my
friend Hope Stau and the two of

1804
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,120
us are discussing the life and
work of the great Orson Welles.

1805
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:58,080
Those episodes are dropping by
weekly Tuesdays, wherever you

1806
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,720
get your podcasts.
So check that out.

1807
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:05,560
If you if you're up to it, we
will put a link in our notes

1808
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,840
page I will give.
That a listen I've on your just

1809
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,560
hearing you discuss Wells.
I've started to like really try

1810
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,280
to dive into his work a little
bit.

1811
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,560
I'm wearing one of my Orson
Welles T-shirts right now, so.

1812
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,680
F is for fake is a phone time.
Such a great movie.

1813
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,960
Fascinating movie, I will
recommend that to.

1814
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:27,000
Anybody.
Yeah.

1815
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:30,760
So good.
But yeah, in three-year old,

1816
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,520
would you recommend it to a
three-year old if they want to,

1817
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,880
if they want to?
Like, like get, take a nice

1818
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:38,040
little nap, Yeah.
OK, I'm fair enough.

1819
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,400
I then I would also I'm.
On blue sky and letterbox.

1820
01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:43,960
At Chewy Walrus, you can find me
there.

1821
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,560
Excellent.
Devon, what do you have coming

1822
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,720
up?
Oh, you can find me at all the

1823
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,400
usual places at Under Score
Daddydisco.

1824
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:57,200
On Blue Sky Instagram letterbox
you can hear me over Inspector

1825
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:02,400
Cinema every Tuesday.
We had wrapped up a month on

1826
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:06,560
movies about scores, soundtracks
and sound design.

1827
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:11,160
Mr. Brian Kiper was on episode
for that talking to Changeling.

1828
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:13,600
So you guys can go back and list
of that.

1829
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:19,200
For Pride Month we are doing the
Psycho Series, doing all four of

1830
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,600
them, and we also did a movie
commentary for Patreon on

1831
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,800
American Psycho 2, All American
Girl that about destroyed us.

1832
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,640
You want to talk about movies
that make you want to not watch

1833
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,000
movies anymore.
I didn't think it.

1834
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,960
I didn't think it could be,
like, as bad as advertised, but

1835
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,680
like, it really is.
So did you make, did you make

1836
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,440
Garrett regret not doing the Gus
Van Sant's?

1837
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:45,080
Like, yeah.
Yes, those are our two options.

1838
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:49,320
Between two terrible options and
we went with that one and it

1839
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,840
still almost killed him.
So.

1840
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:56,000
So yeah, patreon.com/spector
Cinema, if you want to hear us

1841
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:00,200
torture ourselves watching that
movie and you can hear me doing

1842
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,000
Tainted Love every other
Wednesday with Zoe Rose Smith

1843
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,000
talking horror movies about sex,
romance and relationships.

1844
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,800
We did an episode on Tucker and
Dale versus Evil, a little

1845
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:13,040
platonic love, a little new
romance as well.

1846
01:43:13,480 --> 01:43:18,400
And then we just recorded our
episode on Ravenous will be our

1847
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,760
extra Queer Pride Month episode
of Some Queer Cannibals Run

1848
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,120
Around the Mountains.
Ever since Wrong Turn I have

1849
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,320
like literally been consuming so
much cannibal stuff the past few

1850
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,800
months.
I when will I ever stop?

1851
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,920
Who knows?
Ironic word choice device.

1852
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:33,840
Ironic.
Very ironic.

1853
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,720
Steve and I both.
Looked at each other.

1854
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,280
At the same time like Yep.
All right, Brian, how about

1855
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:45,600
yourself?
Well, I it was recently

1856
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,240
announced.
That there's a new Mario Bava

1857
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,320
box set coming out from Scream
Factory.

1858
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:57,600
I did commentaries on that for
Black Sunday and Black Sabbath.

1859
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:03,400
So if you're into black days of
rest, I think that's what you

1860
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,880
said there, Steven.
So I'm stealing that because

1861
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,280
it's amazing.
Oh, you did, by all means.

1862
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:15,040
Yeah.
So so that's coming out for you

1863
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:20,120
Bava heads out there.
Let's see here, I was on

1864
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:25,280
Halloweenies few weeks ago and I
as already mentioned, Spectre

1865
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,920
Cinema and working on Holy
Terrors.

1866
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:34,160
We are banking some episodes
trying to get a few in the can

1867
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,840
before we try to launch that.
We really do want to try and

1868
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,920
launch for the network.
So we're stealing our nerves to

1869
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:46,760
do some pitching on that, and
we're really excited about what

1870
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,600
that is going to cover that.
It's going to be about the

1871
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:55,200
intersection between faith and
spirituality and horror movies.

1872
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,960
And it's the episodes we've done
so far.

1873
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:01,680
We did one on Heretic.
We did one on The Prophecy

1874
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:09,200
starring Christopher Walken.
That is a movie if you haven't

1875
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:12,280
seen that anyway.
If you I.

1876
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,400
Don't know if that one's ever
going to go on the wheel here,

1877
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:19,960
but that is a movie anyway.
So that should be hopefully

1878
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,960
we're going to launch soon where
you haven't decided on an on an

1879
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,880
official launch yet, but we're
hard at work on that and we look

1880
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,000
forward to launching that.
And you can find me at Brian

1881
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,480
Waves 42 on all the various
socials.

1882
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,240
And you can find us everywhere
you get your podcasts.

1883
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,040
You can go to our site Pod in
the pendulum.com.

1884
01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:46,040
We have all of our back episodes
listed as we close in on #300

1885
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:51,000
you can become a patron at
patreon.com/pod in the Pendulum.

1886
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:56,800
Follow us on the socials at Blue
Ski over at Pod and Pendulum and

1887
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:01,880
same over on Instagram.
Follow me at Mike's Noonian over

1888
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:07,160
on Blue Sky and same on
Instagram and Mike Chum change

1889
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:11,720
over on a letterbox.
That's our show for this week.

1890
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,640
We'll be back next week with a
little more Final destination.

1891
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:18,280
We are going to do a franchise
ranking now that we have six of

1892
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,800
them in the books and do things
a little different in that we're

1893
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:26,120
going to rank the six movies and
then also rank like the six

1894
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:31,440
opening set pieces as well, just
to add a little more fun to it.

1895
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:36,480
From there, the Summer of George
will commence, where we sticks

1896
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:45,040
Romero Dead films, along with
Tom Savini's 1990 remake and

1897
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:51,440
Zack Snyder's 2004 Dawn of the
Dead reimagining as well.

1898
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,040
Baby.
Yeah, Summer of George, baby.

1899
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:58,760
So.
That will be I will not, can't

1900
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,320
promise.
I'm not going to beat that joke

1901
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:04,840
into the ground over the summer.
Put it on the soundboard now,

1902
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,120
Mike, while you're thinking
about it will be on there.

1903
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:11,040
It will be on there, maybe even.
Do some sort of trailer for

1904
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,400
those.
OK, that is like one of the last

1905
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:18,400
really big giant franchises.
I mean, we do have other stuff

1906
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,800
we're doing Psycho later and
Predator later and Holy Jesus

1907
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,800
Christ, we have a lot of big
franchises.

1908
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,440
The Omen, The Omen.
I don't think the omens of big

1909
01:47:28,440 --> 01:47:29,560
franchise.
Though it's.

1910
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:33,360
Like one, the first two, the
first one is right.

1911
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,680
So after that.
It's like, how do you guys feel?

1912
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,000
About doing all the.
Leprechaun movies and then I

1913
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,880
just like kick myself in the
Dick.

1914
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,360
So what you're saying mentioned
I just mentioned the Prophecy

1915
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,360
series?
Right, what you're saying is

1916
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,200
this is the last.
Year we're doing pot and pet no.

1917
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:55,760
I have nothing else so like.
Really, we got plenty of

1918
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,680
franchises.
We got Puppet Master that's got

1919
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:03,520
like. 17 movies or something
making me feel better Toys if

1920
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:08,680
you wanna go that route too.
No, I will do this until people

1921
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,320
make.
Me stop at this point just

1922
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:14,040
because like, what the hell else
am I going to do with my time,

1923
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:14,880
Steven?
Like what?

1924
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,920
You know, you know my parents
parent my child, you know.

1925
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:20,840
We all know better.
Your loving husband.

1926
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:24,000
Come on, like we know that's not
it.

1927
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,520
It's not your MO.
We might stop watching

1928
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,040
Amityville Clock.
And come spend.

1929
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:34,400
Time with me.
Let me tell you something about.

1930
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,520
Marriage, people, it's.
A crap.

1931
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,960
Those are your words, Admiral.
Ackbar, not mine.

1932
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:46,960
All right, Oh my.
Actually, we're celebrating our

1933
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,760
19th anniversary in like less
than a week and a half.

1934
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,760
And she's brilliant and amazing
and she puts, as you can

1935
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,840
imagine, listeners, after nearly
two hours of of this, where I'm

1936
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,840
like, you know, a final
destination set in an elementary

1937
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:07,600
school, She she puts up with a
lot like she really does.

1938
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,720
All right, listeners, have a
great week.

1939
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,120
Love to you all.
We'll be back with our rankings

1940
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:15,040
episode.
Take care.

1941
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:33,520
We we, we are all about fucking
them kids and not like, well I

1942
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:34,080
hold on.